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Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by doctorpangloss on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:17AM (#42595606)
People buy iPhones for their software, which is all made here. Otherwise all phones are black rectangles. The hardware isn’t that important.
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by SalmoShalazar on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:54AM (#42595874)
The hardware is extremely important…
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by riskyingo on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:25AM (#42595657)
cool, so no other country except US should buy that crap
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by Barrin92 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:39AM (#42595765)
it's the opposite. People buy iPhones and Apple products for the quality of their hardware and the cost of the devices themselves reflects this. Apple is one of the least software focused tech companies in the world. Everyone except for American teens obsessed with the colors of their chat bubbles uses WhatsApp, Telegram or FB Messenger and other completely platform independent apps. Nobody's ever bought an iphone for Apple Maps, everyone runs around with Google software on their phone.
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by wiseowise on Saturday January 04, 2025 @11:47AM (#42595807)
> Nobody's ever bought an iphone for Apple Maps, everyone runs around with Google software on their phone.

It is still running on Apple platform. I'm buying an iPhone, because I know that I'll get consistent Apple experience that is same across all of my devices, unlike zoo of Android + Windows/Linux.

Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by Barrin92 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @12:15PM (#42596054)
What does that mean? There's no consistent Apple experience across Spotify, Venmo, TikTok and Facebook. There's pretty consistent experiences within these apps across devices, which is what people care about. Nobody cares about their operating system except for that one middle aged developer who loves that his apps look native on his macbook. But that's not why people buy phones.
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by seanmcdirmid on Saturday January 04, 2025 @01:17PM (#42596565)
People buy phones for good stable experiences. I’m not sure how it was today, but it was a mess 10 years ago outside of iPhones, and some people would rather pay more for a phone than bother with something by that requires more involvement.
Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by wiseowise on Saturday January 04, 2025 @02:29PM (#42597027)
If that was the case, then Android would have bigger share in developed countries.

> Nobody cares about their operating system except for that one middle aged developer who loves that his apps look native on his macbook.

Nobody* cares.

* - 34% desktop share and 15% worldwide.

Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by Barrin92 on Saturday January 04, 2025 @03:06PM (#42597309)
>If that was the case, then Android would have bigger share in developed countries.

How does that follow? I'm saying people buy Apple products for their premium hardware, which rich consumers are more likely to do across all categories. If software mattered, Apple would be losing customers across the board because people spend more and more time in non-Apple software. It's the exact opposite of my claim.

>* - 34% desktop share and 15% worldwide.

I don't think you even understood what I said to be frank, I didn't argue Apple's marketshare, we are talking about where the value in their poduct is, I didn't argue that people dislike their products.

Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by drekipus on Saturday January 04, 2025 @06:01PM (#42598315)
> that I'll get consistent Apple experience that is same across all of my devices.

a buggy shitty mess? count me in!

Things aren't even consistent across mac os updates. I think it's much preferable to keep a phone a phone, and the computer a computer.

I only want a macbook because of the hardware. I'd give anything for them to fix the software. but it is what it is.

Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by addicted on Saturday January 04, 2025 @05:29PM (#42598152)
This comment completely misunderstands why Apple software is important.

To be clear, as an f’ing Linux user, the things that make Apple software good, which is consistency, lots of hand holding, and making it really hard to break things badly, are irrelevant to me.

But it’s highly relevant to the vast majority of iPhone users in the world.

Re:China is the manufacturing superpower by mensetmanusman on Saturday January 04, 2025 @10:36PM (#42599562)
Not the opposite. If Verizon had Apple hardware we would have a software nightmare.