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Re:Devin is now generally available by waldenyan20 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @12:55PM (#42379282)
hey guys - Walden here, one of the founders. Excited to have you try out Devin. Reach out here if you have any questions!
Re:Devin is now generally available by mrieck on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:31PM (#42379728)
I'd try it out if you allowed paying $50 for some credits instead of requiring subscription.

Even if that version is limited to only editing public Github repos. $500 to see how well it works is too much.

Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @03:56PM (#42381372)
$50/month in the subscription price in the personal tier (currently not accepting new users) includes 50 credits per month in it, and $500/month teams tier includes 250 credits per month in it. This is what I see with my current user and when I try to sign up as a new user respectively.

I'd like to see that $50/month tier reopened to subscribers, and see a $0/month+credits tier (1 concurrent active session only, constrained to small VM spec with immutable rootfs (regular devin VMs have writable rootfs), no automatic knowledge generation, no snapshots, though playbooks allowed).

Re:Devin is now generally available by badFEengineer on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:31PM (#42379738)
The price seems reasonable, but my main hesitation is on data storage + third party providers- there doesn't seem to be much available information on:

* will you store my code + train on workflows that Devin does for me? * are you piping data to other third party providers (i.e. anthropic, openAI)?

Re:Devin is now generally available by thekevan on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @03:34PM (#42381123)
Can you only use it with a $500 / month subscription?

The word "try" is VERY different than the actual case, which is "pay for use".

If the answer to the first line is yes, how do I request my email be deleted? I started to sign up but I am not a use case for $500 a month at the moment.

Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:19PM (#42381644)
It's monthly subscription plus prepaid compute credits (called ACU in the UI).
Re:Devin is now generally available by swyx on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:08PM (#42379437)
as someone who has been trying you guys out for the past 8 months... you need a speed lever. default devin is way too slow for me :/ i asked scott for a "demo mode" first time we met
Re:Devin is now generally available by waldenyan20 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:35PM (#42379791)
latest update is around 3-4x faster than it was back in Apr but we are working on making it much faster still!
Re:Devin is now generally available by kordlessagain on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:06PM (#42381473)
How is that done?
Re:Devin is now generally available by neural_thing on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:42PM (#42379887)
Devin got a lot faster for me recently, made it a lot more enjoyable to use
Re:Devin is now generally available by JTyQZSnP3cQGa8B on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:12PM (#42379486)
Why don't any LLM show examples of C++ applications? I have yet to see a tool like that which I would be happy to use at work.
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:09PM (#42381517)
I tried it with C and C++ code, it can do them but not very well.
Re:Devin is now generally available by menaerus on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:20PM (#42381652)
How large the repositories are that it can "reason" about?
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:22PM (#42381677)
It's smart enough to figure out the relevant part to change once it scans the codebase. It could do Linux kernel if not for the Linus' policy.
Re:Devin is now generally available by menaerus on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:31PM (#42381776)
Thanks. For example, if I feed it with the 10 MLoC repository, how long does it take before it can start working through the problem?

Would it really work well with the mixture of at least C and assembly which you implied it would with Linux kernel example?

Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:43PM (#42381909)
> For example, if I feed it with the 10 MLoC repository, how long does it take before it can start working through the problem?

The initial scan may take about a hour with a repository that size, and the knowledge base buildup will take about a week (but that one happens during the coding process). It will not continuously scan the entire codebase once it builds up the knowledge of the repository.

Re:Devin is now generally available by menaerus on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:54PM (#42382007)
Fascinating and scary at the same time.

Is this the beginning when intelligence, domain expertise and ability to research becomes commodity?

Re:Devin is now generally available by elashri on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:30PM (#42379714)
Or CUDA code, as this will be somehow ironic given that LLMs inference engines and training are CUDA code in some way.
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:10PM (#42381521)
It can do that too, I tried that too.
Re:Devin is now generally available by cloudking on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:45PM (#42379941)
When crafting projects from scratch, does your system actually fix it's own errors?

That seems to be the challenge with Cursor Agent in it's current form, it generates a bunch of code that has bugs and requires a lot of iteration.

Re:Devin is now generally available by adamgordonbell on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @12:57PM (#42379306)
I'm excited to try it. I use aider quite a bit and tried opendevin at some point.

What is the pricing story?

Can I use it as side project dev or is the target enterprise customers only / mainly?

Re:Devin is now generally available by waldenyan20 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:47PM (#42379981)
we have plenty of small, early stage teams that use Devin but it's optimized designed to fit into a team's workflow. you can of course give it a try and see if it's a good fit for your projects!
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @03:34AM (#42385933)
Any estimates regarding when the personal tier ($50/month+credits) will resume accepting signups?
Re:Devin is now generally available by thekhatribharat on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:02PM (#42379370)
How does one estimate the number of ACUs required to finish a task?
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:10PM (#42381531)
It spends about 2 to 10 ACU per hour in the small VM, and ten times as much on the large one. No credits spent during sleep and "waiting for response" time as far as I observed.
Re:Devin is now generally available by waldenyan20 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:32PM (#42379750)
a helpful benchmark is that a typical frontend task is about 1-2 ACUs, but really depends on the complexity of the task
Re:Devin is now generally available by papichulo2023 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:18PM (#42379568)
Are you a human founder?
Re:Devin is now generally available by waldenyan20 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @01:30PM (#42379711)
very much so!
Re:Devin is now generally available by xena on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:14PM (#42381579)
Can you upload a picture on the company domain with your face, and holding a piece of paper containing your name, the date, the time, and the current bitcoin block number? That would make us more likely to believe you are properly human.
Re:Devin is now generally available by k2xl on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @12:59PM (#42379334)
What model does it use under the hood?

How much context window does it load when it is solving tasks?

How does it determine which files to load into context?

Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:04PM (#42381449)
It's a finetuned version of o1-preview sized distillation of o1-pro if I remember correctly.
Re:Devin is now generally available by yuppiemephisto on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:32PM (#42381785)
Does it work with more obscure languages like Lean 4?
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:03PM (#42382085)
It can work with any language, as it interacts with the VM and can read compiler messages.
Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @04:41PM (#42381877)
You should really add an option to spawn a VM with immutable rootfs, current VMs all have writable rootfs which cost a lot to run, immutable VMs could be much much cheaper to operate (possibly enabling free tiers even).

Also to mention, "suggest knowledge" modal is broken (it silently ignores changes made if you edit the suggested knowledge).

Another issue, sleep&snapshot system is still prone to race conditions in certain cases.

Re:Devin is now generally available by tsak on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @05:55PM (#42382610)
Is it just me that finds it ironic that you're looking for software developers?
Re:Devin is now generally available by throw83288 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @08:21PM (#42383698)
Not really product related: The current trajectory of LLMs/Agents, what is your career advice to someone in school for Computer Science right now?
Re:Devin is now generally available by Buttons840 on Tuesday December 10, 2024 @08:48PM (#42383845)
Hi Walden,

my name is Devin and I don't like sharing a name with a product. Will you please consider changing the name?

There is always the chance that someone named Devin will do something that gives your product a bad name. Perhaps some new scandal will involve someone named Devin or something.

I'd also like you to imagine that a hot new erotic AI was named "Walden", and people said things like "I was talking with Walden last night" as a euphemism. How would that make you feel?

Re:Devin is now generally available by anticensor on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @03:53AM (#42386008)
Hey, can you fix the issue where the editor times out and Devin gets stuck?
Re:Devin is now generally available by marcusverus on Wednesday December 11, 2024 @12:36PM (#42390367)
How should I go about arranging a demo?