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Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by stavros on Saturday November 30, 2024 @02:43AM (#42280200)
> One for you, one for the Chinese shit.

Can you give an example of tech devices that aren't manufactured in China?

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ssl-3 on Saturday November 30, 2024 @03:27AM (#42280354)
No, not specifically.

(To bring this to the logical conclusion: So much for Internet access.) ;)

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by stavros on Saturday November 30, 2024 @05:07AM (#42280713)
So much for internet access even for you! Your router is also made in China.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ssl-3 on Saturday November 30, 2024 @06:47AM (#42281027)
Good point. It was made in England, actually.

(From Chinese parts.)

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by stavros on Saturday November 30, 2024 @07:02AM (#42281076)
Well, that's probably fine though.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by snakeyjake on Saturday November 30, 2024 @12:36PM (#42282837)
There are many tech devices not made in china.

That all tech devices are made in china is a myth propagated by the ignorant (or malicious).

From the raspberry pi (UK) to Samsung Galaxy (South Korea) it is trivial to find a product not made in China once you leave the low end of the market.

And now even the low end has alternatives if you spend some time and effort.

Name any category of product whatsoever and I will personally find you a non-Chinese alternative.

Even many things “made” in China are only really assembled in China. A computer that’s “made” in China is often just slapped together like a lego kit from pieces made in Thailand, South Korea, Germany, the US, Singapore and Taiwan (which isn’t a part of China).

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by freddie_mercury on Saturday November 30, 2024 @03:48PM (#42283938)
I'm pretty sure any Samsung Galaxy in the US was made in Vietnam in the Thai Binh factory, which I used to live close to.

The South Koreanan manufactured units are generally only sold in South Korea.

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by swores on Saturday November 30, 2024 @04:19PM (#42284121)
> "From the raspberry pi (UK)"

Without having put any specific thought into it, I always assumed that while designed in the UK they would be manufacturing them in Asia, so it's a pleasant surprise to find out that you're mostly right - the majority have been made in Wales (part of the UK)!

However some are made in Asia, including China. Quoting Wikipedia (plus the citation links):

> "Most Raspberry Pis are made in a Sony factory in Pencoed, Wales,[19] while others are made in China and Japan.[20][21]"

> [19] https://www.sonypencoed.co.uk/about/

> [20] https://www.zdnet.com/article/14-million-raspberry-pis-sold-...

The second link (20) is from 2017, with headline "Raspberry Pi: 14 million sold, 10 million made in the UK"

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ryao on Saturday November 30, 2024 @04:56PM (#42284311)
I thought that the Raspberry Pi was considered the low end of the market. What is the low end if not the Raspberry Pi?
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by snakeyjake on Saturday November 30, 2024 @05:11PM (#42284399)
There are numerous “X-pi” clones that you can get which represent, to me, the real low end.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ryao on Sunday December 01, 2024 @04:31AM (#42287313)
Don’t those often cost more than the raspberry pi?
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by ThatPlayer on Sunday December 01, 2024 @06:47AM (#42287907)
Which Pi? The Pi 5 starts at $50 nowadays.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by doctorpangloss on Saturday November 30, 2024 @05:59PM (#42284673)
Yeah… all ends of the market, from the $0.03 toy to the $1,400 iPhone have their physical hardware and assembly outside the West, mostly in China.

BUT. The software for the iPhone is made in the US. Which is why people buy it. All phones are black rectangles! The hardware does not matter that much. And the price to buy into the Apple software ecosystem is much higher than the sticker price of the iPhone, only some of which goes to China. So most of the reason someone buys a tech product, and most of the value, ie the software, is US made.

BUT #2: the solar inverter software is used as DRM. This should serve as EXTRA evidence for you that the SOFTWARE MATTERS and that the hardware is completely fungible.

Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by sangnoir on Saturday November 30, 2024 @12:46PM (#42282902)
Tbf, they meant stuff where the firmware updates and/or control-plane are controlled by Chinese servers. I'll go further: all Internet of shiT gadgets shouldn't be allowed to phone home: Chinese, Korean, American, doesn't matter. One day, the manufacturer/operator will use. That internet connection in ways contrary to customers best interests.
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by stavros on Saturday November 30, 2024 @01:55PM (#42283287)
I agree, I use Zigbee and anything that uses wifi is on its own VLAN (wherever it's made, it's not like I trust Meta more, for example).
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by echoangle on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:15AM (#42287505)
VLAN for WiFi is practically a second WiFi, right? Or is there a way to partition the networks with only a single SSID?
Re:Sol-Ark manufacturer reportedly disables all Deye inverte... by stavros on Sunday December 01, 2024 @05:27AM (#42287550)
Well, you can firewall the IP or MAC, but yes, my router supports virtual wifi, so it does multiple SSIDs.