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Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by evgen on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:54AM (#42182459)
It is one of those 'was it really that long ago? I am getting old' moments to actually look this up, but the last major safety features which moved the needle on keeping you alive in a car were the mandates for side-impact protection and anti-lock braking systems. Both are more than ten years old.

I think you would be hard-pressed to name a single innovation from the past five years which has increased your lifespan in a car as either a driver or a passenger. Given the fact that things like adaptive braking, lane-following assist, and blind-spot sensors are old enough to be showing up in low-end cars these days I cannot name a single new or shiny safety feature which would not be available in a mid-tier car from 2014. Can you?

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by digitallis42 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @09:16AM (#42183667)
Adaptive cruise was still higher end at that time. Certainly not ubiquitous at the mid tier. Heck, it's barely ubiquitous now. Both adaptive cruise and automatic emergency braking are game changer features for safety on the highway.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by quantified on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @06:57PM (#42189381)
Nah, it's the same game.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by dh2022 on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @08:39PM (#42190022)
Adaptive driving is a nuisance for me whenever I rent a new car (it seems most of the rentals have this feature). Those visual and audio cues going off when I am in the middle of changing lanes is very disconcerting - and makes me lose focus for a fraction of a second. I wish I could turn it off - but after one look at that hot mess on that center touch-screen I back off in repulsion.

(I also do not like the lights on the side mirrors that indicate a vehicle coming by. I constantly think - what about false positives - and then I double check my blind spot)

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by peanball on Wednesday November 20, 2024 @12:23AM (#42191036)
Usually they don’t beep on lane changes when you use the indicators before switching.

The lights in the side mirrors are also not removing the obligation to check your blind spot.

Both help, but don’t take away your responsibility as driver.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by fragmede on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @09:52AM (#42184031)
AEB is pretty recent, though I'm not sure of the exact timeline, and it has already saved lives.
Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by twoWhlsGud on Tuesday November 19, 2024 @11:09PM (#42190749)
Anti-lock brakes, if I remember correctly, had essentially no safety effect in the real world. Stability control, on the other hand, dropped single car accidents by something like a third. Perhaps you were thinking of that?

Regardless of that, the threat environment has changed pretty dramatically in the last two decades. I gave up my 2006 VW sedan for a new SUV this year because the IIHS numbers had started to look bad for lighter vehicles.

https://www.iihs.org/ratings/driver-death-rates-by-make-and-...

Back in 2006 the previous gen VW Passat was basically as safe as anything you could buy (according to their dataset). Now you need something a lot bigger to be upper tier.

The new vehicle is a plug-in so in the first 4 months of driving I've more than doubled my fuel efficiency. So there's that, anyway.

Re:The Withering Dream of a Cheap American Electric Car by evgen on Thursday November 21, 2024 @09:26AM (#42204595)
You are correct, I was thinking of stability control. Both were mandated by NHTSA at the same time I think.