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Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by mcv on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @05:57PM (#42120799)
Does that mean the discount is only for Americans? I don't see anything about it on the Dutch version of the Apple site.

Still looks pretty affordable. Until you look at the upgrades. € 230,00 for +8 MB RAM?! There are places you can get that for a tenth of that price.

I suppose doing your own upgrades isn't an option anymore? (My last Mac was a 2011 unibody.)

Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by GustaBOT on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:20PM (#42121051)
Since the first ARM systems (may be before) you can’t upgrade things on your own, i had an Air which can be SSD upgraded but not memory upgraded. Memory can only be upgraded from factory.
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by triyambakam on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:42PM (#42121255)
Unless you are dosdude on Youtube

"MacBook Air 16GB RAM Upgrade"

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxbVxaScZQ4

Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by HeatrayEnjoyer on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:40PM (#42121236)
You could just solder on a new ram set
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by jtwaleson on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @09:10PM (#42122217)
The amount of people for whom this is a "just" kind of task is very very low. I don't think "just" should be in that sentence ;)
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by baq on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @05:09AM (#42124677)
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by giobox on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:00PM (#42120830)
They have variations of the program in some European countries. It's been a long time for me, but in the UK they used to just whitelist university domains (we didn't use .edu TLDs either).
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by OJFord on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @07:39PM (#42121681)
We use .ac.uk though (and much of the non-USA world uses .ac.ccTLD similarly) so no need to whitelist individual university domains. I don't know about Apple, but that's a common approach. (And does irritate some where they don't use either and get missed, Canada for example.)
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by jhugo on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @02:40AM (#42123734)
Some countries place no restrictions on registering domains under their .ac second level domain though.
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by nextos on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:10PM (#42120940)
AFAIK, in most of the EU they validate you are a student or an academic through UNiDAYS.
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by talldayo on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:06PM (#42120899)
> € 230,00 for +8 MB RAM?! There are places you can get that for a tenth of that price.

"Comparing our memory to other system's memory actually isn't equivalent [...] because of the fact that we have such an efficient use of memory, and we use memory compression, and we have a unified memory architecture."

- Bob Borchers, Apple vice president of worldwide product marketing (who apparently never heard of zram)

Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by throawayonthe on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @06:19PM (#42121038)
windows also uses memory compression
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by FireBeyond on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @10:23PM (#42122588)
Yeah, that doesn't explain why the Intel Mac Pro cheesegrater wanted $3,000 for 160GB of socketed RAM that OWC would sell from the same manufacturer, same speeds, for $1,000 for 192GB.

Sorry Bob, architecture may be different now, but Apple has always been egregious.

Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by MonkeyClub on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @10:28PM (#42122611)
But what's the point in Borcher's comment? Because there's efficient software use of memory, it's legitimate to put a tenfold price marker on the hardware?
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by wishfish on Tuesday November 12, 2024 @09:23PM (#42122291)
One thing that will potentially future-proof the new Mac Mini is that the SSD is on a removable board. It's a custom Apple design but someone's already hand made their own upgrade. Wouldn't be surprised if there will be 3rd party upgrades commercially available within a year.
Re:M4 Mac mini's efficiency by saagarjha on Wednesday November 13, 2024 @12:11AM (#42123098)
€23 for 8 MB of RAM sounds a bit too expensive, to be honest.