Roughly half of Gen Z men believe men face anti-male discrimination at the hands of feminists, and a quarter say they experienced it directly themselves. That's a huge number and the latter number can only go upwards by the nature of the question. The numbers are also rising very fast. The primary place they experience that discrimination is their workplace or university, i.e. places that affect their economic wellbeing.

https://www.americansurveycenter.org/newsletter/why-young-me...

Nearly one in four Gen Z men say they have experienced discrimination or were subject to mistreatment simply because they were men, a rate far greater than older men.

In 2019, less than one-third of young men reported that men experienced some or a lot of discrimination in American society. Only four years later, close to half (45 percent) of young men now believe men are facing gender-based discrimination. For some young men, feminism has morphed from a commitment to gender equality to an ideology aimed at punishing men. That leads to predictable results, like half of men agreeing with the statement, “These days society seems to punish men just for acting like men.”

It has morphed. Or at least the algorithms are pushing militant feminism far more prominently nowadays.

All these guys see on their social feeds, day-in, day-out, is 'feminists' stating that all men are just rapists-in-waiting and how they should have their rights and/or autonomy restricted, or from the most extreme examples, be physically mutilated or outright murdered.

You don't have to look hard to find this stuff on social media, and once you do find it, that's all you'll ever be served.

I wonder what they perceive as "acting like man". I'm a 22yo guy and living in a sketchy area in italy I always have a friend who's a woman living near me that asks to walk her at home to feel more safe. That's something very manly indeed, and God if it's nice. Hell, one day I drove some burlesque performers home and when I saw one of them was scared I proposed to come at the door of her stay if she would have felt safer with me. That's again quite good for my perception of being a decent man, doing something that's tipically relegated to men.

I wonder what discrimination they face day to day, whether it is phisical or online

There are so many layers to your comment.

Aren’t you now asking yourself, “who are they scared of?”

Let the answer sink in.

I know what women are scared of in that area, God damn I'm autistic but not stupid. I'm slightly on the edge as well, that's understandable. What I'm trying to grasp, is how men perceive they're being discriminated against. If you feel like you're being discriminated because women are scared of men at night in a bad lit sketchy area, that's not discrimination, that's just survival instinct, and I have it too, be it some guy walking his dog on a leash or a woman in her fifties walking alone

>What I'm trying to grasp, is how men perceive they're being discriminated against

For example, there are scholarships and conferences specifically for women, even in spite of college numbers now drastically already favoring women.

I feel as though as a white male I am very heavily discriminated against in the academic job market. I'm certain that if I had a vagina, and all else were equal, I would have 1000x the job prospects in academia. No, I can't prove this, but I know a lot of other men feel the same way.

I created this throwaway account to answer your question because I'm afraid of potential future employers looking at my posting history and seeing the above comment, which I think would instantly disqualify me from the majority of US academic positions.

I showed this to a friend doing a PhD - in italy tho - and she laughed and shrugged saying that she's in academia not because she has a vagina but because she had the right recommendations from the right people

I think the academia world is broken not in the way you think it is

Although not in the US, she says that when doing something in the academia world being a man or a woman makes no difference (here)

> I wonder what they perceive as "acting like man".

As late as yesterday a woman I need to listen to had opinions on something as basic as how men are supposed to pee, telling that how most men feel comfortable peeing is wrong.

That is just one.

But I think it goes all the way from kindergarten up in some places.

All the opinions I've ever heard on how to do something we're mostly said by another men. I feel truly sorry for the men that have to endure this shit, many more times I was deemed gay (jokingly, of course, but still it happened) because I dressed with silk clothes or eclectic outfits (that aren't even so electing) or the way I behaved, and all this was said by friend who were guys as me (the type of guys that would joke about gays and trans and say they have no issues with them but then have to argue about the bathroom trans people use), yet it's silly to berate the entire man-slice of society for this. Stupid people are everywhere

Just the way it is. Most of the "growth" in the last 4 years went to top-wage earners; the bottom (that is, the majority of people) did not see their wages grow faster than inflation. The US has a very particular class of highly educated professionals who live in very specific neighbourhoods that tend to be fairly closed off socially from the rest of society; they have all benefitted tremendously from the Biden/Harris presidency and are her strongest supporters. On the other hand, many Americans who never went to college or never got a Bachelor's at least make much less money on average and have seen food prices and rents skyrocket over the last four years and if they had any savings they've essentially evaporated. These two groups of people don't generally talk to each other.

And those top-wage earners are college aged liberal women and not old rich conservative white dudes?

Kind of? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/03/28/young-wom...

The old rich conservative dudes are the top brass and the incumbent but they often dont earn high wages, they exist outside the earning a living categories. Their income is gaining from their capital in ways that arent classed as income. The top of the upper middle classes are who he is talking about. The difference between the top middle classes and the bottom is larger than it has been for a while

They're both? But the upper-middle class is far larger than the legitimate bourgeoisie, so they're class interests count for a lot more in politics.

College aged women often benefit financially from old rich dudes.

How did these respective groups fare in the 4 years prior?

Well see, once the Project 2025 folks get finished it'll be illegal for women to work and do anything besides birth babies, so currently they benefit by being able to participate in the economy.

If that happens then the economy will collapse since a large amount of the growth in 20th century was due to integrating women into the work force. All I see from the Trump campaign is a policy so chock full of contradictions it won't lead to anything but a political explosion. And then they'll be an opportunity for some real change.

If Musk runs the government the way he is running X, a political explosion is all but certain.

Yeah, what he doesn’t understand is that the government bureaucracy that’s been created is the only reason many of the departments of government work as _quickly_ as they do.

While we as engineers see what appear to be obvious slow inefficiencies (like: “I could build a system to replace all that the DMV does so people won’t need to sit in that waiting room!”) the reality is we don’t even understand all that the DMV does.

I feel that’s the trap Musk falls into, and it became blatantly obvious when he took over X.

Aside from liberals boycotting X for political reasons (a completely non-technical issue), technically the site seems to work perfectly fine even after Musk drastically reduced the bureaucracy behind it.

Most of the “bureaucracy” came from the non technical side.

Which is why X is under multiple investigations by the EU and advertisers have left the company in droves.

I’m boycotting X because I think Elon Musk is an ass and I don’t want to support him in any way. Twitter died to me when it became X and I’m totally fine with that.

X is a cesspool now anyways

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