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Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by xbenjii on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:23AM (#42017166)
I'm confused. They're claiming "Apple’s M4 Max is the first production CPU to pass 4000 Single-Core score in Geekbench 6." yet I can see hundreds of other test results for single core performance above 4000 in the last 2 years?
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by ceejayoz on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:24AM (#42017179)
Are those production results?

https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/1962935 says it was running at 13.54 GHz. https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/4913899 looks... questionable.

Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by zeroonetwothree on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:32AM (#42017268)
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by ceejayoz on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:40AM (#42017360)
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by wtallis on Friday November 01, 2024 @06:07PM (#42022043)
7614 MT/s on the RAM is a pretty large overclock for desktop DDR5.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by ThatMedicIsASpy on Friday November 01, 2024 @07:08PM (#42022447)
There are 8000MT/s CUDIMMs for the new Intel Chips now...
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by wtallis on Friday November 01, 2024 @09:19PM (#42023282)
They've been announced, within the past two weeks, and as far as I can tell aren't actually available for purchase from retailers yet: the only thing I've seen actually purchasable is Crucial's 6400MT/s CUDIMMs, and Newegg has an out-of-stock listing for a G.Skill kit rated for 9600MT/s.

The linked Geekbench result from August running at 7614 MT/s clearly wasn't using CUDIMMs; it was a highly-overclocked system running the memory almost 20% faster than the typical overclocked memory speeds available from reasonably-priced modules.

Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by m00x on Friday November 01, 2024 @11:24PM (#42023834)
Geekbench is run pre-release by the manufacturers.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by MBCook on Friday November 01, 2024 @11:58PM (#42023971)
But by definition that means it’s not a production machine yet.

So it doesn’t invalidate Apple‘s chip being the fastest in single core for a production machine.

Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by m00x on Saturday November 02, 2024 @06:58PM (#42029852)
The post doesn't say anything about production machine. It talks about consumer computing.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by xbenjii on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:28AM (#42017224)
Yeah that's fair lol
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by t-sauer on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:28AM (#42017225)
As far as I can tell those are all scroes from overclocked CPUs.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by zeroonetwothree on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:32AM (#42017274)
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by zamadatix on Friday November 01, 2024 @11:23AM (#42017812)
Geekbench doesn't really give accurate information (or enough of it) in the summary report to make that kind of conclusion for an individual result. The one bit of information it does reliably give, memory frequency, says the CPU's memory controller was OC'd to 7600 MT/s from the stock 5600 MT/s so it feels safe to say that number with 42% more performance than the entry in the processor chart also had some other tweaks going on (if not actual frequency OCs/static frequency locks then exotic cooling or the like). The main processor chart https://browser.geekbench.com/processor-benchmarks which will give you a solid idea of where stock CPUs rank - if a result has double digit differences from that number assume it's not a stock result.

E.g. this is one of the top single core benchmark result for any Intel CPU https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/5568973 and it claims the maximum frequency was stock as well (actually 300 MHz less than thermal velocity boost limits if you count those).

Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by t-sauer on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:35AM (#42017306)
That result is completely different from pretty much every other 13700k result and it is definitely not reflective of how a 13700k performs out of the box.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by Refusing23 on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:58AM (#42017548)
AMDs upcoming flagship desktop CPU (9800 X3D) reaches about 3300 points on singlecore (the previous X3D hit 2700ish)
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by grecy on Friday November 01, 2024 @04:41PM (#42021334)
Are you saying a product that has not been released yet will be faster than a product that is?

And that a desktop part is going to outperform a laptop part?

Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by IshKebab on Friday November 01, 2024 @05:37PM (#42021801)
I think he was backing up Apple's claim.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by Dylan16807 on Saturday November 02, 2024 @01:00AM (#42024168)
No, neither of those.
Re:Apple's M4 Max chip is the fastest single-core performer ... by api on Friday November 01, 2024 @10:24AM (#42017178)
Could those be overclockers? I often see strange results on there that looks like either overclockers or prototypes. Maybe they mean this is the fastest general purpose single core you can buy that is that fast off the shelf with no tinkering.