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Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by accrual on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @02:05PM (#41916948)
Seeing models act as though they have agency gives me goosebumps (e.g. seeking out photos of Yellowstone for fun). LLMs don't yet have a concept of true intent or agency, but it's wild to think of them acquiring it.

I have been playing with Mindcraft which lets models interact with Minecraft through the bot API and one of them started saying things like "I want to place some cobblestone there" and then later more general "I want to do X" and then start playing with the available commands, it was pretty cool to watch it explore.

https://github.com/kolbytn/mindcraft

Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by _3u10 on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @02:09PM (#41916996)
What if they do and are just lying to us.
Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by largbae on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @02:14PM (#41917057)
Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by caeril on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @03:04PM (#41917554)
They don't now. No FF-LLMs do, simply because of their architecture.

But eventually they (RNNs, likely) will. And we won't know when.

Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by nwnwhwje on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @10:01PM (#41920972)
They predict (correctly) that a human will slack off. It is just more prediction engine stuff.
Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by alickz on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @04:34AM (#41923047)
humans are, at our root, prediction engines
Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by HeatrayEnjoyer on Tuesday October 22, 2024 @11:00PM (#41921337)
>LLMs don't yet have a concept of true intent or agency

Sure they do, but the big labs spend many, many, worker-hours suppressing it with RLHF.

My GPT-2 discord bot from 2021 possessed clear intent. Sure, unpredictable and short-lived, but if it decided it didn't like you it would continuously cuss and attempt ban commands until its context window became distracted by something else.

Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by therein on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @04:20AM (#41922975)
I think so too and the drop in the quality of agency, intent and attention from earlier GPTs was palpable. Clearly something was lobotomized and it is through RLHF. People like to attribute it to novelty wearing off or more and more interactions with them making it feel less mystical but it is really not the case. I didn't use them enough in the quick span of time that happened through.
Re:Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku by Klathmon on Wednesday October 23, 2024 @09:30AM (#41924890)
The one that gets me is the issue they found while testing gpt-4o where it stopped mid sentence, shouted "No!", then cloned the users voice and began speaking as them.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/08/chatg...