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Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by wokwokwok on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:40PM (#41843760)
I mean, shoot me down here, but is it that bad of an idea?

If you're going to have an assistant or a taxi driver, and you start off at the base position of "AI is totally unreliable", then having a fully remote gig-worker remotely piloting your robot...

I mean, it doesn't seem like a massive stretch from what Uber does.

...and heck, having a 'remote robot body' is pretty cool tech.

I guess. As long as you don't use it to pretend its just AI for the meaningless purposes of generating hype about your AI that really isn't actually any good.

Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by darth_avocado on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:55PM (#41843841)
> Is it that bad of an idea?

Driving at 60mph with shaky internet connection? Absolutely.

Piloting a robot to fold laundry? Maybe not.

Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.

Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by nnurmanov on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:18PM (#41844578)
There are FPV drones, although I am not sure about their precision
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by xyzzy123 on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:09PM (#41843923)
It seems like there's considerable demand for human labour "below the API" that you don't have to talk to. It's kind of sad but people seem to get comfortable with it very quickly.
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by kortilla on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:21PM (#41843989)
> Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.

Your risk analysis on this is completely wrong. If there is some vetting here this is fine. No different than a babysitter or a handyman off the Internet

Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by darth_avocado on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @12:01AM (#41844826)
My “vetted” Doordash/Ubereats drivers sometimes end up eating part of my meals.
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by defrost on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:32PM (#41844051)
You're saying then that tools exist to scan and ping all babysiters and handymen across the globe, fingerprint them for version, lookup zero-days, apply them to matching staff, exploit that to monitor children remotely, and take control over home assistants function to shepard children out the door to a "party van" ?

That's the ecosystem that surrounds most actual IoT devices - I can't see home robots being any different.

Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by nneonneo on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:48PM (#41844133)
The Pied Piper, in robot form.
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by jazzyjackson on Monday October 14, 2024 @10:02PM (#41844207)
Who gets a babysitter off the Internet?
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by oblio on Monday October 14, 2024 @10:27PM (#41844344)
Apparently at least everyone who keeps this website going, at least: https://www.babysits.org/
Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by FactKnower69 on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:47PM (#41843795)
>but is it that bad of an idea?

yes, operating any kind of heavy machinery over a shaky wireless WAN with hundreds of milliseconds of latency and multiple percentage packet loss is, in fact, a bad idea

Re:Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event by foobiekr on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:29PM (#41844033)
The problem is it was presented in the most manipulative and deceptive way possible.