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Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by bluedevil2k on Sunday October 13, 2024 @09:14PM (#41833242)
Try $250 for a capacitor here in Texas - they know you can’t afford to take a few days to shop around due to the heat. What I’ve found works over the years: get the phone number of a few HVAC guys as you encounter them and offer them $50 to come when you need them. They’ll never pull the “you should cal l my employer” because most are contractors who need to buy their own equipment.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by gh02t on Sunday October 13, 2024 @10:51PM (#41833784)
I had a bad capacitor this past summer and ended up having to drive over an hour because the only place in town that would sell me a capacitor was Grainger on the opposite end of [moderately large town]. Everywhere else I called declined to sell me one for "safety reasons". Several did offer to send a tech out to do it for me...
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by fshbbdssbbgdd on Monday October 14, 2024 @03:45AM (#41835194)
When my AC broke on the weekend, I got a capacitor from Amazon that arrived next day.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by gh02t on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @02:12PM (#41851381)
Unfortunately Amazon in my area at the time had been taking a week or more for any deliveries. It was really annoying.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by mmmlinux on Monday October 14, 2024 @11:32AM (#41838467)
If they have techs they don't want to sell you parts, they want to sell you service. Granger sells parts. Would you call up restaurants trying to buy a raw potato?
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by gh02t on Tuesday October 15, 2024 @02:11PM (#41851349)
I actually mostly called up HVAC supply places but they wouldn't sell me a cap and offered to refer me to one of their "preferred" service providers. Maybe it's some backdoor colluding in my area, who knows, but yeah I was really surprised they wouldn't. I think I called 3-4 before someone told me Grainger sells 'em.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by bigfatkitten on Saturday October 19, 2024 @12:54AM (#41885726)
It's pretty common for outfits like that to be "trade only" and not do retail sales at all. Electrical wholesalers are often the same.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by sidewndr46 on Monday October 14, 2024 @02:12PM (#41840220)
This is why you call a supply house and not an HVAC company. As long as you aren't trying to buy refrigerant they really don't care.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by lotsofpulp on Monday October 14, 2024 @01:03AM (#41834357)
> What I’ve found works over the years:

Going to Ferguson.com and ordering a replacement capacitor to have on hand for $30 works even better.

It’s literally just turning off the power to the compressor, using a screwdriver to open the panel, unplugging the old capacitor, and plugging a new one in.

Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by cma on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:07AM (#41836737)
Seems like you skipped the discharge step..
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by lazide on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:31AM (#41836912)
Just don’t lick it haha
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by HeyLaughingBoy on Monday October 14, 2024 @10:21PM (#41844314)
Point taken, but pretty good chance that a blown cap isn't too great at holding a charge anymore.
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by cma on Wednesday October 16, 2024 @04:55PM (#41863775)
And if the capacitor wasn't blown but it was instead a seized motor or something?
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by HeyLaughingBoy on Sunday October 20, 2024 @07:01PM (#41899198)
Then why are you replacing the cap?
Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by defrost on Sunday October 20, 2024 @07:07PM (#41899239)
General debugging of hardware might lead to that.

Regardless .. discharge the cap, blown or not.

Clear the chamber, even if you removed the magazine and checked it yesterday.

etc.

The general principles of health and safety are intended to be largely overkill and mostly not strictly required, they're in place for that one time that kills or injures.

Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by quickthrowman on Monday October 14, 2024 @08:49AM (#41837033)
You forgot to discharge the capacitor, the most important step. This is why people who don’t understand what they're doing should not touch an A/C start or run capacitor (or any electrical equipment, really) for any reason.

Please don’t give out dangerous advice, if you want to risk electrocution, that’s your choice. Don’t encourage others to perform work unsafely.

Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by lotsofpulp on Monday October 14, 2024 @10:59AM (#41838155)
Good catch, but the point remains that it’s a simple repair most can be prepared for and not have to wait for someone else to come fix it for you.

Maybe print the instructions and leave it with capacitor or watch a couple YouTube videos first.

Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by smileysteve on Monday October 14, 2024 @03:01PM (#41840717)
> Maybe print the instructions and leave it with capacitor

The UX to make this consumer replaceable looks more like

1. Add a bleed resistor to the capacitor (its default state when unplugged should be discharged)

2. Use a modern consumer grade connector (ie sealed molex or deutsche)

Re:America's new millionaire class: Plumbers and HVAC entrep... by 7speter on Monday October 14, 2024 @09:36PM (#41844071)
DIY is a worthy approach, but people have to gauge their own limits.

If you really don't want to run the risk of being electrocuted, it might just be worth the 250 dollars to have someone who does this sort of thing all day to come and do the repair.