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Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by suriya-ganesh on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:08PM (#41752144)
I can answer to this, having worked on an assistant that is always on, from your phone.

The platforms (ios, Android, etc.) are very limiting. It is hard to have something always on and listening. Especially apple is aggressive with apps running in the background.

You need constant permissioning and special privileges. The exposed APIs themselves are not enough to build deep and stable integrations to the level of Siri/Google Assistant.

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by echoangle on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:17PM (#41752223)
Oh, I didn't get that it's supposed to always be listening. Maybe I'm not the target audience but I wouldn't want that anyways. If that's important, that might be a good reason. I think this needs to change in the future though if AI agents are supposed to become popular, I can't imagine buying separate hardware every time. Either the integration in the OS needs to become better or Google/Apple will monopolize the market and be the only options.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by jsheard on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:20PM (#41752249)
> Oh, I didn't get that it's supposed to always be listening. Maybe I'm not the target audience but I wouldn't want that anyways.

I don't know about this project, but generally when a voice assistant is "always listening" they mean it's sitting in a low power state listening for a very specific trigger like "Hey Siri" or "OK Google" and literally nothing else. As much as they would probably like to have it really listening all the time, the technology to have a portable device run actual speech recognition and parsing at all times with useful battery life doesn't really exist yet.

Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by joeyxiong on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:28PM (#41752286)
You are right, “always listening" they mean it's sitting in a low power state listening for a very specific trigger like "Hey Siri" or "OK Google" and literally nothing else.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by fragmede on Saturday October 05, 2024 @04:06PM (#41752516)
Yes it does. Having a hot mic hooked up to a local model for transcription is well within our capabilities. All you'd need is OpenAI whisper on a high end smartphone and you're good for a couple of hours. Throw in a battery bank the size of a smartphone to get a couple more hours. If you built custom hardware, like they did here, you could easily build something that lasts an entire day.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by echoangle on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:31PM (#41752310)
Yes, I thought it was button-triggered.
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by xnx on Saturday October 05, 2024 @03:25PM (#41752271)
If you have a separate -dedicated- Android smartphone for this task, why wouldn't the app run in the foreground?
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by suriya-ganesh on Saturday October 05, 2024 @08:37PM (#41753867)
In some sense this is what, Rabbit R1 tried to do. they just shipped a low end custom android skin in a new formfactor so that they own the platform. Didn't go well for them
Re:Show HN: Open-source real-time talk-to-AI wearable device... by fsflover on Sunday October 06, 2024 @03:11PM (#41759387)
> The platforms (ios, Android, etc.) are very limiting.

I'm not sure what that "etc" is supposed to mean, but GNU/Linux phones run desktop OS and impose no artificial limits on you.