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Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by briandear on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:04PM (#41683283)
Buses are terrible. Nobody wants to spent 15 hours on a Greyhound when there are cheap and easy flights.

Regional airports are subsidized for good reason. Air ambulances, search and rescue, firefighting, disaster relief, and all sorts of public service work happens at regional airports. Nobody is sending organs for transplant via Greyhound. You’re not going to stage firefighting aircraft at SFO. You’re also not going to train student pilots at LAX.

Let’s not forget Watsonville California during the 1989 earthquake. https://youtu.be/qxCCcLUYP7Y?feature=shared

I used to fly disaster and public service relief flights — into Louisiana after a major hurricane — roads were flooded and impassible; but my Cessna T206 could get in bringing supplies — despite the New Orleans Airport being shut down for two days.

I’ve also flown countless Angel Flight missions, Pilots and Paws, and various support missions during the 2020 California wildfires. All using regional airports.

When governments stop paying for sports stadiums, sending money to pay for someone else’s wars, and subsidizing housing for people that are in the country illegally, EVs, and every other wasteful bit of government spending — then perhaps we might talk about regional airports.

The money the U.S. sent to Ukraine in just a single year could fund regional airports for decades. Eliminating waste fraud and abuse in the Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security system would fund regional airports for a lifetime.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by chrchr on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:53PM (#41683489)
There's no reason buses need to be terrible. Intercity bus service in Mexico is practically luxurious, with big reclining seats that you can actually sleep in and thick curtains that close. In the U.S., there was a startup offering overnight trips between Los Angeles and San Francisco with sleeping pods. They shut down at the beginning of the pandemic, but imagine how nice it would be to wake up at your destination refreshed instead of fighting through LAX at dawn and squeezing into a 737 for one of those "cheap" flights.

I often take Amtrak from Portland to Seattle instead of flying. Theoretically it is a short flight vs a four hour train trip, but consider that the train station is centrally located on both ends, and you can enjoy the decadent spaciousness of even a coach seat on Amtrak, while breathing nice fresh sea level air the entire time, and Amtrak wins easily.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by lotsoweiners on Sunday September 29, 2024 @11:07AM (#41687889)
> but imagine how nice it would be to wake up at your destination refreshed instead of fighting through LAX at dawn and squeezing into a 737 for one of those "cheap" flights.

I generally have bad sleeps when I’m staying in a luxurious bed at the Marriott or Hyatt. I cannot imagine that spending a night in something called a sleeping pod would end in anything other than me being up all night unable to sleep.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by noodlesUK on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:27PM (#41683362)
I think regional airports are great, but I don’t think they can meaningfully compete with intercity coaches. It will never be financially viable to price a commercial flight on a small aircraft at the sub $30 point. I also don’t think the interchange network can possibly have the same level of coverage.

It needs to be possible for people to use public transport to get around, including between smaller destinations, otherwise you’re just completely abandoning the population who can’t drive.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by undersuit on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:07PM (#41683292)
But I might want to spend 4 hours on a bus and I can't now. I have to take 2 1.5 hour flights thanks to the Delta hub.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by dh2022 on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:57PM (#41683501)
Or you can drive if it the Delta hub is too much trouble.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by undersuit on Saturday September 28, 2024 @07:08PM (#41683548)
I don't want to drive to the Delta hub; I don't want to drive. The bus is fine, there's a short stop on the way where I used to buy a milkshake.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by mcone on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:12PM (#41683314)
The majority of Americans didn't fly anywhere last year and I'm not sure they would agree with your assessment. This is a case where more democracy — putting region airports on ballots — makes a lot of sense. If the majority of people vote for it, then by all means, subsidize it.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by Spooky23 on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:28PM (#41683366)
There is a reason why republican government is more effective than a pure democracy.

We have plenty of examples of populist idiocy. Many folks never fly - I’ve actually only ridden an airplane 8 times. But the overall benefit to society is compelling and beneficial to society.

Sports stadiums can be similar, but modern clubs want facilities who luxury features exceeds what the government should provide.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by linotype on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:06PM (#41683290)
EVs aren’t wasteful. The US alone consumes 9 million gallons of gas a day. It’s not sustainable. If we don’t transition in the next fifty years no one will be driving except for the extraordinarily wealthy.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by yaksha on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:16PM (#41683325)
Do you have references backing up the claim of such gas consumption not being sustainable?
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by linotype on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:42PM (#41683433)
https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc...

Oil is made over millions of years and we’re on track to deplete it in under 200 years. We’ll never completely deplete it because the oil that’s left will be uneconomical to extract, but that’s functionally the same thing.

Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by baggy_trough on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:49PM (#41683468)
They said the same “50 years to go” thing in the 70s. Yes, of course the naturally occurring supply is finite. But we don’t know where the limit is.
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by gambiting on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:29PM (#41683372)
What do you mean? You do know our oil supplies are finite, right?
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by tobi1449 on Saturday September 28, 2024 @07:30PM (#41683641)
Nothing you're listing here requires a heavily subsidized regional airport, just a regional airfield ...
Re:America's Greyhound bus stations are disappearing by bachmeier on Saturday September 28, 2024 @06:11PM (#41683308)
Downvoted this because it's basically just a bunch of off-topic political talking points. They bring nothing relevant to the comment you're replying to.