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Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by 8fingerlouie on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @08:42AM (#41646771)
> Maybe not so out of reach after all? Leave a "base station" on the surface at one end of the fibre, and at the other end another "subsurface station" that has a ROV-style tethered- "swimmer"

I think your main issue will be that the hole freezes over behind you, meaning you'll need some serious power to pull the fiber through 20 km worth of ice. You can of course pull the fiber in a sleeve of some kind, if you can keep water out of it, and if you can't there's really not much you can do about it.

I would think the best option would be a somewhat high power radio transmitter/receiver.

Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by mrshadowgoose on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @09:32AM (#41647322)
Spool goes on the descending module.

> would think the best option would be a somewhat high power radio transmitter/receiver.

If you can figure this one out, the militaries of the world would love to have a chat with you. Water/ice is ridiculously good at attenuating EM. It's a huge issue with submarine communications.

Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by nick238 on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @03:20PM (#41650924)
Wire-guided torpedos[1] and missiles[2] are fairly common, and the wire pays out from the projectile-side so it's not progressively dragging more and more. The more recent DM2A4 Seehecht torpedo[3] has a fiber-optic link, probably to reduce EM emissions or the detectability of a km's-long wire/antenna, despite being underwater.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_48_torpedo

[2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wire-guided_missile

[3]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DM2A4

Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by zardo on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @11:56AM (#41648785)
> I think your main issue will be that the hole freezes over behind you.

Getting an ice plug started is a problem, you need meltwater to get fast heat transfer from the melt-head to the ice, but you can't have liquid water at Europa surface pressure.

Re:NASA spacecraft to probe possibility of life in Europa's ... by exitb on Wednesday September 25, 2024 @09:13AM (#41647128)
You'd need to take the cable spool down the hole, so the unspooled part above is already in place.