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Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by salad-tycoon on Monday September 23, 2024 @07:45AM (#41625042)
It makes me happy to live in a world where scores of intelligent people dedicate their lives to creating a magnum opus and end up with glue. Beautiful. Sure, we don’t really build cathedrals anymore but at least the world of adhesives (and packaging) is thriving.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by bombcar on Monday September 23, 2024 @07:55AM (#41625114)
I first realized that glue is the "glue" holding the world together when I read about this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Dig_ceiling_collapse

It was caused by using the wrong glue to hold up a 26 ton slab of concrete - which immediately caused me to say "There is a right glue?"

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by anamexis on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:40AM (#41625421)
Heck, you could reasonably call cement glue, in which case it’s really holding the world together.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by wrigglingworm on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:49AM (#41625478)
"On August 8, 2007, a Suffolk County Grand Jury indicted epoxy company Powers Fasteners, Inc., on one charge of involuntary manslaughter, with the maximum penalty in Massachusetts being a fine of $1,000."

Dude..

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by sodality2 on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:32AM (#41625910)
> In January 2008, the state and the office of United States Attorney for the District of Massachusetts, Michael Sullivan, reached a settlement with the contractors responsible for the failure, which included no criminal charges and no bar against receiving future contracts. The Bechtel/Parsons Brinckerhoff joint venture paid $405 million, and smaller contractors paid a total of $51 million.

They ended up settling with the contractors for much more.

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by ceejayoz on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:25AM (#41625845)
Given those charges were used to leverage $22M in settlements and a wide recall of the product, something outside the mere $1k seems to have been a useful bludgeon.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by zaroth on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:21AM (#41625805)
Actual fines and settlements added up to about $500 million.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by throwaway1258 on Monday September 23, 2024 @08:50AM (#41625492)
> Sure, we don't really build cathedrals anymore

Maybe not the Catholics, but the Latter Day Saints are still building plenty:

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/temples/photo-gallery/sa...

(For context, they refer to them as temples rather than cathedrals , but the general idea of it being a place of worship with lots of effort put into architecting it remains)

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by matsemann on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:05AM (#41625635)
That you can have some glue unstuck by applying power, and even control which side ends up with the residue by changing the polarity just blows my mind. Really cool!
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by itishappy on Monday September 23, 2024 @09:07AM (#41625649)
> we don’t really build cathedrals anymore

I visited a recently constructed Hindu temple in Atlanta last year. Very impressive. All imported marble. Sounds like these guys have been building them all over:

> A number of shikharbaddha mandirs (large traditional stone mandirs) were inaugurated in major cities; London (1995), Nairobi (1999), New Delhi (2004), Houston (2004), Chicago (2004), Swaminarayan Akshardham (New Delhi) (2005), Toronto (2007), Atlanta (2007), Los Angeles (2012), and Robbinsville (New Jersey) (2014).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bochasanwasi_Akshar_Purushotta...

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by verandaguy on Monday September 23, 2024 @11:49AM (#41627386)
I think this comment ignores a lot of context.

Cathedrals were the result of centuries of research into materials science, physics, and geometry -- and that's just considering the buildings themselves, not even the often-intricate religious art within.

Some of the challenges and solutions in cathedral architecture took generations to solve; in many gothic and neogothic cathedrals with particularly tall, internally-unsupported naves, solutions like flying buttresses were thought up to support the walls externally -- sometimes with multiple layers of buttresses-upon-flying-buttresses. Developing the right cement and figuring out which type of stone you could use alone were often a project that took years, especially for landmark churches.

These churches sometimes took decades or centuries to build, depending on how you measure it (basically, if you include significant reconstructions).

They also weren't representative of the average construction project in essentially any region where there are cathedrals; those were more likely to be houses, shops, and other commercial buildings like port structures.

Things like flying buttresses or new, opulent-but-functional arch designs also weren't representative of the average innovation in those times. Depending on where you look, that might be stuff like, a new loom variant that lets you produce new patterns, or a new kind of cheese that ages quickly while having a similar enough flavour to a slower-aging, more expensive type of cheese.

My overarching point is -- at any given point in time, the average invention is small and boring. Specialists are a valuable resource, yes, but the more specialized they are, the smaller and more boring their contributions will seem to the average person outside of that specialization. Landmark innovations are built on thousands of smaller innovations made over years or decades, and those smaller innovations were usually invented by someone who's spent the past 25 years of their lives obsessing over that tiny thing, having published dozens of papers and argued for years about something you've likely never even heard of.

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by m4rtink on Monday September 23, 2024 @12:06PM (#41627548)
Sagrada Familia is still under construction and likely will be for a while yet. :)

Also at least one DiY cathedral build: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justo_Gallego_Mart%C3%ADnez

Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by TrapLord_Rhodo on Monday September 23, 2024 @01:55PM (#41628722)
We build cathedrals almost daily, and they dwarf any cathedrals ever created. We just call them factories. Instead of exemplifying the unknown face of some made up entity, we create them to exemplify the industry and fecundity of humanity.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by skinner927 on Monday September 23, 2024 @02:01PM (#41628783)
Glue in an iPhone impacts (for sure indirectly) more people than a cathedral ever would.
Re:How the iPhone 16's electrically-released adhesive works by oblio on Tuesday September 24, 2024 @03:52AM (#41634197)
We build a million things each year which are a lot more impressive than cathedrals.

China built a entire high speed rail network that's about the size of all the other ones in the world, combined, and they did it in 20 years.

China built a high speed Maglev train between Beijing and Shanghai, I think Japan is going to build one soon, too.

The US has been building hyper tall pencil looking skyscrapers in Manhattan for about 20 years.

There are tons of amazing tunnels being built around the world, as we speak.

India, China, Indonesia, etc. are building amazing subway networks in tens of cities.

The scale, complexity and sheer audacity of what we're building has never been seen in the history of the world.