> No, you just don't want to get better! I am really losing patience with you. Why don't you want to get help!?

I do not understand why people choose someone who says stuff like this as their partner.

There a lot of people who say "I love you just the way you are", but think "I can mold them into my perfect partner".

Abusive relationships exist, also its not just grey and white. Oftentimes at the beginning of a relationship everything seems fine and happy but as time goes on the bad stuff shows up, one partner can't handle the others adhd sympoms and this kind of conversation can show up

Besides your parent mentioned relatives as well. You don't choose those

Often these "unchangeable" personal faults are revealed after a commitment like marriage, children or signing a lease together.

Now all of the sudden you are a full time in home aide for your former partner.

As for why the person with the problems doesn't leave they don't want to have to spend a few months/years as a contributing partner to trick someone into caring for them again.

These things don't come out on the first date, they can develop over the years at which point you become stuck with that person (could be children, pets, property and other stuff). Many people are simply trapped - they cannot leave because they won't have money to get some place to live, they got cut out of their friends / family and are controlled by fear ("If you leave me I am going to kill myself and leave a note that you did it, you'll go to jail" or "Without me you are nothing, you are worthless, you won't find anyone and you'll die alone" etc).

The FDA makes life very difficult for companies making medical claims that are false.

I cannot see this device actually coming to market in the US without rigorous studies demonstrating efficacy. (No idea how strict Australia is…)

The article is nothing more than a fundraising pitch. There is no product on the market yet.

Great if this happens, since it uncovers ongoing unhealthy relationship patterns, and makes them more visible. It does absolutely nothing to enable them.

To label it "abuse" immediately is modern, but not necessarily the most beneficial perspective if you want to grow with each other. You may also not always be in the position to choose who you interact with (e.g. relatives). Then you can still work on why (and how) you would care about _their_ problem, and not make it yours. Seems to be a confusion here about who has the "condition"/problem?

Now that's some gaslighting here.

These products give false hope and are triggering for people susceptible for it which leads to abuse.

Can you explain what do you mean by "gaslighting" in this context? We seem to have a different understanding of what that term means?

Gaslighting is when someone manipulates you into questioning your own perception or reality. By dismissing the concern, minimising the abuse, and subtly shifting blame, you're continuing to do just that - making me question whether the emotional manipulation described is valid, which is exactly what gaslighting is.

You are mistaken. Gaslighting is not simply someone sharing a different perspective than you. It requires an ongoing relationship and an orchestration. By using the term for simple situations like this, you are minimizing what actual gaslighting entails, and how destructive it can be for someone's psyche.

https://time.com/6262891/psychology-terms-misused-gaslightin...

How are you reading my comment as something where I make you doubt your perception? Can we not simply disagree, and share our different perspectives? Can we not hold different opinions about things, even concurrently, in our minds? I can unfold, and explain my position more, if you're interested. This is a place of discussion, after all.

Yes, dude, keep gaslighting. I think you need therapy if you are like this in real life.

You are using techniques of diversion instead of engaging with the content of the discussion.