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Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by TeMPOraL on Saturday August 31, 2024 @04:09AM (#41407276)
They'd still be better than cheap drones at remote pick-pocketing - if you could train them to spot and snatch coins and bills.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by ChrisMarshallNY on Saturday August 31, 2024 @04:52AM (#41407442)
I suspect they would be difficult to train, because of their attitude. We see this with many wild animals. Dogs train easily, but coyotes and wolves, who are even smarter, are much more difficult to train.

One of my favorite nature vignettes, is a part of Planet Earth, by the BBC, about Cape Hunting Dogs[0]. It looks like a military assault. They are really clever, and work well, as a team.

But if you could train crows, they would probably be marvelous.

[0] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MRS4XrKRFMA

Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by TeMPOraL on Saturday August 31, 2024 @05:33AM (#41407592)
Train is a bit of a shorthand here, though. Basic operant conditioning probably won't cut it. But the idea itself came to me after encountering similar thread about crows on HN many years ago - both comments and referenced articles would contain personal anecdotes about human-crow relationships, and from those I gathered that it's possible to kind of befriend a crow (or a group), and teach them behaviors as a kind of play.

So, I don't expect it's easy to train crows like dogs and pigeons, where one person "pre-trains" them and gives/sells them to someone else. But I think it should be possible to "train" a crow for yourself - bond with it and have it voluntarily indulge you reliably enough that it's pretty much like training.

Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by jonplackett on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:01AM (#41408239)
It’s interesting how our view of animal intelligence is massively shaped by the animals we see every day - pets, farm animals, zoo animals. All animals that have had their natural intelligence degraded substantially.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by hypercube33 on Saturday August 31, 2024 @07:00AM (#41407917)
Badgers are incredibly smart and we seem to not be able to train them at all. There's a pair on YouTube that figure out how to escape their sanctuary
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by KineticLensman on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:04AM (#41408958)
Honey badgers? I visited a place in Africa where a pair were housed in an old tile-sided swimming pool because they could get through anything else. Until someone left a long-handled garden tool in there and they used it to climb out. One of the two was never seen again. The other was caught in a lion enclosure - it had cornered of the lions who was trying to avoid a fight, allegedly.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by ChrisMarshallNY on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:21AM (#41409064)
A classic Honey Badger Meme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by sadcherry on Sunday September 01, 2024 @01:21AM (#41414509)
Dogs are wolves. All of them.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by ChrisMarshallNY on Sunday September 01, 2024 @04:30PM (#41420110)
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by andylynch on Saturday August 31, 2024 @08:05AM (#41408257)
Thinking about markers, the falconer at a railway station I frequent paints the pigeons he wants his bird to pursue with a green laser.
Re:Crows Are Even Smarter Than We Thought by cultofmetatron on Saturday August 31, 2024 @10:20AM (#41409054)
> They'd still be better than cheap drones at remote pick-pocketing

for that literal reason, they are illegal to keep as pets in srilanka