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Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by candiddevmike on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:03AM (#41400286)
I can't stand watching videos on something I need information for <right now>. Maybe I'm just terrible at video scrubbing, but give me a long form write up and I can scroll or ctrl+f my way to what I'm looking for very quickly.

I suppose they can't force inject 5-15 second ads though, so maybe folks like us brought this on ourselves.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by bigstrat2003 on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:25AM (#41400498)
Videos absolutely suck for transmitting information, compared to text. I estimate that I can read an article about 10x faster than an equivalent video, they aren't even in the same ballpark. It boggles my mind that so many people prefer videos, given how much slower they are. It's enough to make me cynically wonder if people these days are illiterate or something.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by iam-TJ on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:22AM (#41401033)
More important than that is text lends itself to searching for possibly obscure phrases to narrow down the possible candidates before even having to "consume" any information whereas with video that is challenging and very inefficient (time and energy-wise).
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by lukan on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:59AM (#41401352)
Usually it is already very obscure, being presented with a video link in an debate at all. No thank you very much.

Where I like a video, is for example of a teardown of a device. HowTo videos of practical skills. Watching a professional use his tools.

But even then, I often prefer text with good pictures.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by bee_rider on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:58AM (#41400777)
The only thing I’ll say in defense of videos (which I generally don’t like at all) is that when somebody makes a video, it does sort of force them to do the steps. I’ll definitely take a well-written set of instructions over a well-written video usually. But a crappy video might accidentally be better than a crappy set of instructions because the steps that the author didn’t think to include will at least be shown by default if they do it in one take with minimal editing.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by MostlyStable on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:38AM (#41401185)
>in one take with minimal editing

In my experience this is far more rare than a well written, comprehensive set of instructions.

Even the tiniest youtube channel with 3 digit subscriber numbers recorded on the owners phone will edit out the "boring" bits. At least for any task that takes more than 2-3 minutes. If the task is short enough then yeah, they will often leave in the whole thing.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by jsjohnst on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:48AM (#41400685)
> I estimate that I can read an article about 10x faster than an equivalent video

Especially due to all the filler b/s that every YT video has these days, be it over sharing their back story, Like and Subscribe! (And ding that bell!), sponsored ad reads, here’s my ten other videos you need to watch, etc etc.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by Schiendelman on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:30AM (#41400534)
I suspect it's because they can't focus on text - their devices have 2000 notifications distracting them. Video is more easily engaging, they're less likely to switch away.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by ghaff on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:32AM (#41401142)
I daresay thee average user would be a lot better off if they disabled all but a very small handful of notifications.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by lukan on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:00AM (#41401363)
The average user likely does not know, that even the option exists.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by Schiendelman on Thursday September 12, 2024 @10:09AM (#41521191)
It's getting better. Apple's summarizing multiple notifications coming in 18.1 (you can try this in the beta today) and only highlighting "important" notifications by default. I haven't seen any evidence of them abusing this, either.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by inglor_cz on Friday August 30, 2024 @12:18PM (#41402117)
Depends on what you need.

I was once able to fix my toilet watching an Indonesian video. I understood approximately zero, but I could still follow that guy's hands.

It is a different story with programming or other abstract/text-based tasks, but when it comes to anything done with hands, I like a video better.

3blue1brown videos on maths are beautiful as well. I wish I had them when I was 18.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by ipsento606 on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:03AM (#41401403)
Videos can be great where it's the kind of topic where you'd watch the whole video.

Videos are terrible when you need a small amount of information that's embedded in a much longer video.

The second scenario is much more common for me than the first.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by yourusername on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:03AM (#41400848)
>Videos absolutely suck for transmitting information, compared to text.

It depends on the information. For DIY information for example i find it much better to see someone show how to lay brick or frame a wall than to read how it is done.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by flyinghamster on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:49AM (#41401267)
I'd say that for mechanical topics (construction, car repair, etc.) a video can be very useful. But please, provide a written transcript, since that's at least searchable.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by bigstrat2003 on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:57AM (#41401336)
That's fair. Video games are another thing which lend themselves pretty well to video content.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by kranke155 on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:05AM (#41401434)
The issue is there is a huge monetizing platform for video, which has minted multimillionaires.

There is no equivalent for that for text, even though Substack is trying.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by tayo42 on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:24AM (#41401610)
Discoverability is better for content creators on video platforms then text.

If I wrote an article, what are even my options to share it?

Video you, have YouTube, insti, tiktok etc to get discovered on and people can even find it.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by Workaccount2 on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:01AM (#41400820)
Google has been trialing AI overviews of youtube videos, essentially it opens a gemini chat where gemini has been prompt-stuffed with the whole video.

A 12 minute "Here is my favorite method for unclogging a drain" video becomes a three sentence reply from gemini telling you what it is.

I don't know how google is gonna get this past creators if they fully role it out, as it is a massive shameless backstab, but at the same time it is wonderful for viewers who don't want to trudge through filler video after clickbait headlines.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by sitkack on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:19AM (#41400997)
Wow, it is a backstab! They force creators to make longer videos or they won’t get monitized and then do this. Creators get paid by the watch minutes.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by mhh__ on Friday August 30, 2024 @07:26PM (#41405422)
They've been doing that for a while though e.g. a specific (say) 31s segment of a video will come in the search results rather than just a link to a popular video
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by yazzku on Friday August 30, 2024 @02:15PM (#41403197)
Text -> video -> text

It's come full circle, just that the wheel now consumes orders of magnitude more power to churn the final text.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by arprocter on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:16AM (#41400962)
I didn't realize how bad this has gotten until I was looking for a GPU undervolting guide

What could be a couple of paragraphs is stretched into a 5-10 minute video; most of which is explaining what it is, and not how to do it

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by geoffeg on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:32AM (#41400548)
I'm always surprised at how many non-tech people don't know about their browser's ability to search in the page. I've been on multiple calls at work with researchers who have been in the field for more than a decade and they'll read the entire page instead of hitting ctrl-f.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by hprotagonist on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:18AM (#41400427)
yt-dlp audio only, and stuff that into whisper: video to text in ~30 seconds.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by Am4TIfIsER0ppos on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:59AM (#41400789)
> terrible at video scrubbing

It is partly the form, video, but more so the access method, the network. All networked video sucks at skimming through because the file isn't cached and takes a few milliseconds to several seconds to load the part you jumped to. The interface also doesn't help because usually they lack controls for skipping forwards and backwards and long jumps forwards and backwards.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by TacticalCoder on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:57AM (#41401327)
> I can't stand watching videos on something I need information for <right now>. Maybe I'm just terrible at video scrubbing

Do not worry: in a very short while we'll all have AI tools, running locally, that can summarize videos in textual forms in a split second.

Prompt: "Summarize this vid in five paragraphs. List specs."

It already exists. In a short while we'll all have this at home.

P.S: prompt: "Remove every single ad and submarine content too".

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by thrwaway1985882 on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:10AM (#41401481)
Replacing "downloading 2kb of text on a device with minimal technical specs" with "buying a top-end computer to download hundreds of megabytes of video & shove it into an LLM to mangle and hallucinate the message down into 2kb of text".

Thank god for progress. What would we do without it.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by Sakos on Friday August 30, 2024 @11:26AM (#41401626)
I'm waiting for it to become more convenient, but no joke this is what I've been doing. When I find interesting videos about software development, I'll often use Whisper to create a transcript and then upload it to Claude to summarise, then I can ask it questions about the content as well as explore related topics and ask it for further reading.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by amyjess on Friday August 30, 2024 @06:57PM (#41405268)
Of course, that assumes the AI won't just hallucinate and give you false information. Which is a major problem with current LLMs.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by throwway_278314 on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:14AM (#41400390)
Oh, but they can put blinky video ads all over the page so no matter where you look there are things to distract you.

yeah yeah adblock pihole yes I know.

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by immibis on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:08AM (#41400331)
There must be a market for video information converted to text. It would be completely illegal, of course.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by CuriouslyC on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:52AM (#41400724)
The irony of serving a video, consumed by a robot, to serve a human text, rather than serving the text in the first place.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by dbspin on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:14AM (#41400388)
Well, there's a source if not a market - LLMs.

https://www.proofnews.org/apple-nvidia-anthropic-used-thousa...

Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by imp0cat on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:20AM (#41400445)
Sound like some sort of ADHD symptom where any video longer that a few seconds is perceived as too long, doesn't it?
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by samsari on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:31AM (#41400538)
No, it doesn't even remotely sound like such a thing.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by ryukoposting on Friday August 30, 2024 @09:31AM (#41400540)
Not really. Video just doesn't lend itself well to searchability (is that a word?). YouTube's "table of contents" feature helps, but only when the video's creator actually uses it. Even if they do provide a ToC, it still doesn't help much if you're trying to find a particular sentence, or brief mention of a particular detail. Perhaps we also need videos with an index, in addition to tables of contents.
Re:End of the Road: An AnandTech Farewell by imp0cat on Friday August 30, 2024 @10:00AM (#41400804)
Right, but as I see it, there are multiple kinds of videos. Some are made specifically to be a vehicle for ads. You know what I mean, those 10+ minute long videos on simple tricks, where a short clip would suffice. They also usually lack any markers or chapters which makes skipping through them infuriating. I understand the rage here, I hate those with a passion, too.

But some long videos are excellent, well-made and informative.

Perhaps when the OP needs the info right now he may be more stressed and less in control of himself?