Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by Baeocystin on Friday August 23, 2024 @03:25PM
(#41332232)
My favorite part is how you can now only have a single page open in all of settings. Have a blocking dialogue box open? Too bad for you if you want to change literally anything else, gotta wait!
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Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by HideousKojima on Friday August 23, 2024 @11:56PM
(#41335474)
Or heaven forbid you want to check your network settings and your printer settings at the same time!
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by altusbrown on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:28AM
(#41335641)
Or how the network settings pages often don’t even have basic network information on it, so you literally can’t even use the supposed debug page to actually diagnose even the most basic network issues!
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by smcin on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:48AM
(#41335739)
Specifically Windows 11? Is that due to bugs, or intentional redesign?
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by sidewndr46 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:09AM
(#41338435)
I've never found any way on the Windows 10 network page to configure, troubleshoot, or display diagnostic network information. I have to go the 'old' one that is more like what was present in Vista & 7.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by reachableceo on Saturday August 24, 2024 @04:31PM
(#41341252)
What information are you specifically seeking that you aren’t finding on that page?
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by reachableceo on Saturday August 24, 2024 @04:31PM
(#41341254)
What information are you specifically seeking that you aren’t finding on that page?
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by lolinder on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:07AM
(#41335800)
I think you're supposed to use Recall for that now. Open the network settings, then switch to printer settings and ask the LLM what your network settings were.
It's a much more elegant solution than multiple windows in Windows!
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by mewpmewp2 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:50AM
(#41336419)
This design is very human.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by flohofwoe on Saturday August 24, 2024 @05:45AM
(#41336905)
I really hope that's a joke, hard to tell these days with AI-bros spouting similar nonsense ;)
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by EasyMark on Saturday August 24, 2024 @11:44PM
(#41344192)
windows then: "we show you all the guts in a window and hope you click the right things
windows now: "we hope your prompt engineering is strong, that is our only interface"
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by Incipient on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:05AM
(#41335796)
This right here. Unfortunately it's just a symptom of Windows (and most things) not being designed for the power user/administrator.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by mewpmewp2 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @03:49AM
(#41336416)
I doubt the interface is any good for normal user as well.
The UX designers don't care for it to be actually usable, they just want the standard UX/UI ideas of whitespace and stuff looking good without thoughts how the features are actually used.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by passwordoops on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:02AM
(#41338381)
This 100%. And I fear it's a full-blown problem in design ethos generally. We're looking to remodel the kitchen and three designers have presented different, very beautiful concepts... Without any practical long-term consideration to real-world usability
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by myth2018 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:26AM
(#41338558)
Indeed, and this seems to be pervasive in UI design as a whole. Until not long ago, designers created palletes of styles and components to be used by programmers. Now they draw entire screens and deliver the drawings to the programmers. This puts too much decision power in the hands of a group that don't have a clear view of the requirements and development costs -- and I have serious doubts about their understanding of "user experience" as well. Like you said, it feels that their artistic conceptions trumps anything else
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by ozim on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:02AM
(#41336006)
What is worst even Windows Server is not being designed for power user/ administrator.
Yeah I can do lots of stuff with powershell but lots of time I just want to run app wiz.cpl because new one doesn’t show all stuff that is installed. Let alone network settings new screens being useless.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by kijin on Saturday August 24, 2024 @01:56AM
(#41335979)
The one knobs and dials will probably be retained, but only in the Enterprise version and Windows Server. That's how they segment the userbase these days. Home and Pro are for dummies.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by 0x0 on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:13AM
(#41336049)
Maybe they should rename the operating system from "Microsoft Windows" to "Microsoft Window".
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by IWeldMelons on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:37AM
(#41336136)
Microsoft Win Dough
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by hulitu on Saturday August 24, 2024 @12:34PM
(#41339398)
They seem to copy Android heavily. Android is also a single tasking OS with a lot of TSRs. /s
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by grishka on Saturday August 24, 2024 @09:55AM
(#41338333)
That's a problem with a lot of modern desktop UIs. The industry has somehow unlearned how to use multiple windows. Everything is a tablet app in a single window now.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by dpkirchner on Saturday August 24, 2024 @10:32AM
(#41338610)
The ultra modern solution: just remove settings until they can all fit in a single window. And then remove a few more.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by grishka on Sunday August 25, 2024 @12:08AM
(#41344306)
But keep the removed ones available to determined enough users through undocumented registry keys and "defaults write" commands.
Re:Microsoft formally deprecates the 39-year-old Windows Con...
by bitcharmer on Saturday August 24, 2024 @02:20PM
(#41340210)
What's actually mind boggling to me is that after so many years windows still uses plenty of badly formatted unresizable windows. Also no way to pin a window to top (in Z-order) even though we've had that on Linux for at least a quarter of century