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Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by gary_0 on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @04:01PM (#41174697)
"Extremely cheap global telecommunications accessible to everyone" came with a lot of drawbacks we didn't consider at the time they started to become viable. Although all the spam in our inboxes should have been a clue.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by 01HNNWZ0MV43FF on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @08:05PM (#41176885)
Not exactly an advantage to pay a fee to a middleman. It's more like frictionless communication should be the default, and we had a period where friction accidentally acted as signal
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by Avicebron on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @09:00PM (#41177187)
I mean if the signal isn't replaced by anything, then the onus is put on to the person receiving the call. If years ago, there was a barrier for an army of phone scammers from across the world throwing everything they can think of at an old person with borderline dementia, and suddenly that went away..I don't know how you can really justify the "frictionless communication" outside of a couple of options. A) "Well it's their fault, they should be on their guard all the time everyone is always trying to scam and manipulate you" -- (idk about you but this seems pretty grim and inhumane) B) "well it's a net benefit for ~someone~ so we should all be happy about it, and refer to A)"
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by vkou on Tuesday August 06, 2024 @11:55PM (#41178113)
You don't actually want frictionless communication. Frictionless communication will drown you in a mountain of spam.

A 'Frictionless' ability to transmit puts all the friction, pain, and negative externalities onto the recipient.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by qq66 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @12:19AM (#41178207)
I want frictionless communication with the people I've already communicated with, but very high friction communication with people I've never talked to before. I'd love a way to charge $10 to get into my inbox. If it ends up being a long lost friend or whatever, I'll Venmo them back the $10.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by jazzyjackson on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @04:15AM (#41179280)
This use case is actually the reason we have bitcoin, tho it's a shame it took off as a protest to banks instead of getting implemented as a functional anti-spam tool. To this day spam is regularly in my inbox and I have to check my spam folder for legitamate messages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashcash

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by dartos on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @06:33AM (#41179936)
Well, no. That’s the reason we have hash cash (the pow algo for bitcoin)

Bitcoin itself, as with most early cryptocurrencies, is and was a protest against banks and centralized finance.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by jazzyjackson on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @10:16PM (#41187506)
fair enough, I should say it was a prerequisite
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by gosub100 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @09:31AM (#41181280)
There's nothing stopping this from happening. Build encryption into the email protocols and hide the decrypt key behind a block chain that costs even $0.01 of a fungible token to access.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by jazzyjackson on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @10:15PM (#41187496)
the blockchain, as usual, is not necessary, the header is proof enough on that a penny worth of energy[0] was expended in generating the hash

[0] (or however much energy you want to demand before throwing the message in the spam folder - you just require whatever number of leading zeros in the hash ie crank up the difficulty, bitcoin's innovation was assigning ownership to these proofs-of-work via signatures and implementing a mechanism to update and broadcast that ownership)

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by smabie on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @12:58AM (#41178368)
You can send everyone not on a list to spam and auto respond with a link to pay you $10 to get on the white list

should be doable

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by thanksgiving on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @04:32AM (#41179374)
Not currently doable with phone calls.

From what I understand, the caller ID feature is completely useless. There is no willingness to implement rules that guarantee the number the call is coming from is the owner of the number. The best you can do is call them back and hope the routing doesn't get screwed up.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by gsck on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @06:30AM (#41179909)
Depends on the circuit that you are dialling out onto.

I know where I work there are some rules about presenting whatever number you want on our trunk provider, but this is something they have put in place themselves with no "legal" reason for them to do it. We've been working with them for years so we are one of their trusted clients and have the ability to present any number we want as long as we have permission to do so from the number owner.

The fact its up to the trunk provider to put these rules in place and not just standard everywhere is wild to me.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by outop on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @02:00AM (#41178619)
If I was your long lost friend I probably wouldn't pay the $10 upfront.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by jtriangle on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @03:06AM (#41178924)
Not much of a friend then eh
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by c22 on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @12:59AM (#41178370)
You'll have to just to send your reply!
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by CPLX on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @04:40AM (#41179426)
There’s lots of services like this that I have seen, including a popular one where you can donate $1 to a charity in order for your email to reach someone’s inbox.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by rightbyte on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @06:41AM (#41179981)
Ye imagine if you got 50c for each call or email you received not on a whitelist and the social contract was to refund it by pressing #1 after the call ended or whatever.

Pay numbers are a thing so I guess it should be doable.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by tantalor on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @11:03AM (#41182169)
Yes please. SMS too.
Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by marcosdumay on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @10:37AM (#41181940)
> It's more like frictionless communication should be the default

No. We should have complete control on how much friction anybody gets to communicating with us. And frictionless should absolutely not be the default.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by pradn on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @01:02PM (#41183243)
Friction is signal.

I recall I used to individually send snaps to like 30 friends each time, back before Snapchat invented Stories. I had to think a tiny bit, and put a tiny bit of effort, for each person. We lost that when people started posting to stories only.

Re:The Actual Wolf of Wallstreet Cold Call Script by Gravityloss on Wednesday August 07, 2024 @09:10AM (#41181065)
With enough technological development we can make everything in the future like getting off from the airport train in a big third world city and surrounded by beggars and fraudsters. Robocalls, AI blogspam, Email, Facebook etc.