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Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by why_at on Thursday July 11, 2024 @08:23PM (#40941771)
Curious if anyone knows of any more recent descriptions about what life is like in North Korea, like in the last 5-10 years. Most things I've read including this article are decades old.

How much have things changed there in terms of technology, food security etc?

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gre on Thursday July 11, 2024 @09:39PM (#40942104)
https://youtu.be/2BO83Ig-E8E?si=WK1Gp62Hbx0624Wx

Documentary about getting s haircut in North Korea

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by hereme888 on Friday July 12, 2024 @12:10AM (#40942691)
You mean a shameless North Korean propaganda video with a ridiculously twisted version of history and reality?
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by Taek on Friday July 12, 2024 @02:31AM (#40943159)
Worth keeping in mind that NK has one of the most active / visible cyber teams on the planet, presumably including astro-turfing and propaganda.

Which means any conversation on the internet about NK is likely to be polluted with propaganda, even if none of the participants themselves are operatives - all it takes is someone unwittingly ingesting a bad fact once for that bad fact to get circulated.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by Garvi on Friday July 12, 2024 @08:15AM (#40944819)
Would you care to elaborate with any source for this claim? Otherwise I have to crown this the dumbest thing that I've read on the internet this week. I see the HN moderation is doing a great job at keeping the triple digit IQs away.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by galdosdi on Friday July 12, 2024 @09:50AM (#40945567)
It's so well known it would be easier for you to source your claim. Or you know, you could source the claim yourself. Obviously you didn't bother before posting.

When I say dragons fly over the rainbows, I need to source the claim. When I say that the sky is blue, it's you who needs to look it up if you doubt it so much.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gre on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:02AM (#40945656)
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Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by galdosdi on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:07AM (#40945700)
Wasn't talking to you. Was talking to the person I replied to
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gre on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:09AM (#40945719)
My bad!
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by Garvi on Friday July 12, 2024 @02:04PM (#40947932)
My point stands then :)
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gre on Friday July 12, 2024 @09:42AM (#40945504)
Are you suggesting that boyboy, an Australian youtube channel that posts about everything, is a North Korean propagandist? Or is it me?

Anything said about north Korea that is not absolutely bonkers is propaganda?

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by red-iron-pine on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:46AM (#40946092)
boyboy doesn't have to be propagandist to regurgitate some factoids that were put out deliberately elsewhere as agi-prop.

that's the point, you poison the well once and everyone keeps drinking from it, forever.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gre on Friday July 12, 2024 @02:11PM (#40947986)
which facts are wrong? genuinely want to correct my worldview
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by gverrilla on Thursday July 11, 2024 @09:40PM (#40942110)
this is a group from Brazil (so portuguese - you can use yt's autotranslate) who supports and studies NK - they have visited and on this live they show the pictures/videos and talk about life there, food, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQNQWwXA6_0

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by cmrdporcupine on Friday July 12, 2024 @08:24AM (#40944871)
I clicked that and skipped through it and now YouTube's algorithm thinks I want to watch a whole bunch of Brazillian neo-hyper-Stalinist-cult tankie videos.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by red-iron-pine on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:48AM (#40946109)
sounds like one to watch from my work account
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by snicky on Friday July 12, 2024 @01:06AM (#40942839)
After the famine in 90s both the party and the people realized that the state can't really guarantee any food security so it's mostly taken care of by free market as anywhere else in the world now. Trading goods may not be entirely legal, but is widely accepted.

Check "North Korea Confidential" by Daniel Tudor and James Pearson from 2015.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by MIC132 on Friday July 12, 2024 @02:04AM (#40943027)
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by odysseus on Friday July 12, 2024 @02:30AM (#40943150)
Check out the 2023 documentary Beyond Utopia for a glimpse. It’s currently on Hulu.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by maxglute on Friday July 12, 2024 @04:09AM (#40943558)
There's hours and hours of NK footage if you search for North Korea Travel / Vlog in simplified chinese. They tend to have much laxer guides/minders, fluent in mandarin vs western travellers with minders with shit English (and I presume more suspicious / cautious). Very few of Chinese vlogs have auto subtitles which can be translated to english unfortunately. Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZgzAquCs-o&list=PLk70D7sV6Q...

There was a few playlist from central asian travellers and with Chinese business man exploring with more casual minders a few years back but I can't find them. I know a few PRC nationals who made the trip for business, TLDR is NK cities and towns feels like PRC in the 90s with energy of PRC in the 80s. Some of the villages/hamlets seem like PRC from the 70s (which I guess is what most ppl think of NK). Other era reference points probably not helpful for ppl without context of growing up in PRC. So it's worth scrubbing through some of the videos, a lot of it is city and keep in mind NK is 60% urbanized.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by seanmcdirmid on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:55PM (#40950204)
They won't let Americans in, except during the mas games, and even otherwise you can usually get in with a Chinese tour group. One of my American coworkers in Beijing went back in 2011 or so, and didn't have any problem, although I got the feeling it wasn't as interesting as she thought it would be.

Educationally speaking, the DPRK would catch up pretty quickly if they were able to liberalize their economy as much as China, even without all the help they could get from ROK, Japan, USA. It isn't Afghanistan (where liberalization wouldn't stick), or even Laos where there is a lot of work to do on modernizing society, which makes its current state even more depressing.

Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by maxglute on Saturday July 13, 2024 @03:08PM (#40956131)
IMO NK in the unfortunate geographic situation where Kim's inherited the half of the peninsula with just not enough ariable land, but not so not enough that juche isn't viable. NK with water access could probably be an alright middle (or even upper middle) income country exporting their 5-10T mineral reserves. They had enough prexisting/rebuilt industry to perhaps even export higher value processed goods + not unserious effort at socialism to avoid dutch disease. Kims playing a solid hand poorly, but the cards are still enough not to fold. Which is sad.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by rvoje on Friday July 12, 2024 @04:39AM (#40943745)
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by usr1106 on Friday July 12, 2024 @05:11AM (#40943935)
The pandemic has probably changed a lot. Virtually no foreigners have been there after 2019, so I guess the best we know is that we don't know.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by InDubioProRubio on Friday July 12, 2024 @06:33AM (#40944280)
Remember those marching formations, where a normal AK looked like a giant toy wielded by kids.
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by divan on Friday July 12, 2024 @08:20AM (#40944852)
Honest and unpaid North Korea influencers (apparently trying to influence South Korea) can tell a bit :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzFoNe5rNMo
Re:How to Survive 3 Years in North Korea as a Foreigner by tuennesje on Friday July 12, 2024 @10:31AM (#40945923)
This book was published 2009, https://archive.org/details/nothing-to-envy-ordinary-lives-i..., and I can highly recommend it for anyone wanting to know a little about how life might have looked like growing up in North-Korea.