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Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by rvba on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:16PM (#40805203)
> Xenon is unique among psychedelic drugs because it’s a pure element. It leaves the body exactly as it entered, completely unchanged.

I very doubt it is true. The article poorly hand waves later that a brain without oxygen will starve.

I bet shooting this crap for some short term high will burn your brain cells, even if mixed with oxygen.

Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by opprobium on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:28PM (#40805305)
It is in fact psychoactive and a good anesthetic:

"How does xenon produce anaesthesia?" https://www.nature.com/articles/24525

It is not typically used in most countries because it is very expensive compared to alternatives, but it is approved in many countries for anesthesia: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3626616

I found this article very weak, but Xenon is quite a real drug.

Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by alan-hn on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:24PM (#40805272)
That's absolutely not true. It is already used in medical practice and mixing with oxygen, similar to how laughing gas is used, prevents hypoxia. These things are easy to google if you actually care to look
Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by ttyprintk on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:24PM (#40805273)
You should compare it with oxygen tents used to simulate training at high elevation. The risk of damage is more-documented from those compared to argon and xenon.
Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by RIMR on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:28PM (#40805307)
Xenon gas is a pure element. It absolutely is going to leave your body exactly the way it entered, because your body has absolutely no ability to break down a pure non-reactive element into anything.

You seem to be responding to this as if it is saying that your brain is immune to injury from Xenon abuse, which is never a claim that the article made. It is clearly stated that oxygen deprivation through Xenon inhalation can cause death.

Now, 30 seconds of oxygen deprivation is sure to cause your brain to "starve" in the sense that oxygen levels will drop enough to affect your consciousness, but that's absolutely not enough oxygen deprivation to cause brain damage, given that the general method is to trip off of a single inhale, similarly to how Nitrous Oxide is used recreationally.

Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by idiotsecant on Wednesday June 26, 2024 @06:26PM (#40805296)
A magnet will pass by a hard drive and emerge totally unchanged. It doesn't mean the hard drive was not changed
Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by snaeker58 on Thursday June 27, 2024 @10:01AM (#40810649)
I wouldn’t use such analogies on wildly unrelated subjects.

Saying „The long term effects of Xenon on the human body and brain are still mostly undocumented when it comes to repeated recreational use.“ sounds so much better!

Especially since almost all common magnets don’t actually effect a hard drives functionality. The internet states you need a magnet with a force of 0,5kg to actually cause data loss. So we’re talking a large neodymium magnet. Which makes this analogy even worse.

It’s honestly incredibly how much your analogy upsets me!

Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by idiotsecant on Thursday June 27, 2024 @12:53PM (#40812535)
Sounds like a you problem, the analogy is fine. Just because the gas emerges unchanged does not mean the body through which it passed was.
Re:Breath of God: Tripping on Xenon Gas by rvba on Friday June 28, 2024 @04:50PM (#40825153)
Very good analogy!