Some people have actually had good luck with Oracle Linux but that’s very much an individual (or corporate) choice to consider.

Aside from that, Rocky Linux also seems like a great choice for many: https://rockylinux.org/

Some also say that AlmaLinux is pretty good: https://almalinux.org/

Personally, I found RPM distros to be quite stable but have largely moved over to Ubuntu LTS for servers (technically Debian also has a LTS release, but it’s not as mainstream) and Linux Mint locally (largely Ubuntu without focus on snaps and the Cinnamon desktop is pleasant), it’s been working pretty well so far.

Then again, I run most software in Docker containers, so thankfully underlying OS changes usually aren’t too bad for me to deal with.

>Some people have actually had good luck with Oracle Linux but that’s very much an individual (or corporate) choice to consider.

Jup for enterprise, OracleLinux it is. I don't like Oracle as any normal person would, but they never did some shady stuff with their Linux, it even works perfectly on a Raspberry PI.

Worth mentioning that Rocky is made to match RHEL bug-to-bug, so an equal alternative to CentOS, Rocky's maintainer is former engineer in CentOS team.

Alma independently manage their updates though, started by Cloudlinux, who are also experts in maintaining EL distros

Debian 12, after a period of using Ubuntu that ended when Canonical decided to put advertising in the friggin cli. Oh, and pushing snap, but the advertising is what really nailed it for me. ;)

I realy like debian but is there any equivalent to yum ? It did some really nice advanced stuff I don't think you can replicate with apt. The shell mode avoided me some really big trouble several times (erlang updates often made me uninstall anything using it on update).

Current job doesn't give me many chances to use linux rn so I'm a bit out of touch. Recently took a look at rocky and it felt like a centos. also tried ubuntu but I recall I had to remove some ads package yeah.

Funnily enough, years ago, I migrated from Debian as my daily driver to (at the time) "Fedora Core" on my desktop.

My first question was "what's the replacement for aptitude", and people pointed me to "yum shell". It was not as good, but I got used to it, and went with it.

If you run "aptitude" on debian, without any argument, you end up in a TUI, you can use it to install or remove packages from your system, and then see the "preview" of the change, and apply/cancel the change. The same way people use "yum shell".

I'm used to new "dnf shell", so I don't miss aptitude anymore, but I think aptitude is what you're looking for.

Interesting, in my head aptitude was an ubuntu thing so I never tried in debian. Thanks for the tip.

I don't have anything against apt, it's just specific edge cases when it really saved me massive headaches by being able to remove and add during same change without having to remove all apps depending on it.

“apt install foo+ bar-” will install foo and remove bar, in one operation.

as someone who has used debian and centos 6 +7 extensively apt and dpkg are more than sufficient replacement for yum with centos.

i know its a whole environment change but debian really is the logical replacement for a centos style deployment.

I would love to be able to comment on rocky linux but i havent used that quite yet.

Hmmm, I've just been using apt and the dpkg-* tools (ie dpkg-query), and for my uses it's been fine. :)

> put advertising in the friggin cli.

And the logs. I think it's every 30 minutes or so that "buy Ubuntu advantage" gets logged, you have to disable a systemd timer to get rid of it.

AlmaLinux user here, happy with it, everything works.

+1 Alma is great. I've interacted less with Rocky but both projects have great teams behind them, and both have a clear mission and promise to their users.

+2 The transition was very smooth

RHEL is free for up to 16 systems (physical or VMs). For CI, you can run Rocky/Alma to ensure continuous compatibility if you grow past 16 beefy VMs.

>RHEL is free for up to 16 systems

If they don't change their mind, i would not build my business on a promise made by IBM ;)

But you'll build your business on software you get for free on the internet with absolutely no commitment behind it?

>absolutely no commitment behind it?

I think commitment to your baby (your project) is far more morally superior than commitment to just making your stakeholders happy...no?

BTW: I buy Github DVDs, I don't load it from the "Internet".

Until they have an actual baby and don't have free time to spend maintaining large projects for free.

>to spend maintaining large projects for free.

What is your point, anyway?

That all of Debian will have a baby? Or that all of ArchLinux gets impregnated at once? Big projects are usually not led by a single person....oh whait...linux is, and now Linus cannot have sex anymore, thank you OP.

We're trying to migrate everything we can to Debian.

As soon as Red Hat made the EOL announcement for CentOS I moved to Almalinux.

Which is probably the right answer (or Rocky) if you're set on having CentOS like it was before the team was acquired by Red Hat (which frankly didn't change the situation as much as some folks assume it did).

CentOS Stream

Switched to Debian since one of services we use is Debian supported only so it was a logical choice. Some clients are still requesting Oracle or RHEL but we are pushing towards Debian. It was a nice ride with CentOS.