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Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by mvkel on Friday May 31, 2024 @12:42AM (#40531573)
This is the best answer.

Any techie will desperately try to come up with a tech solution to this problem.

A few months of development later, you might have something that yields trustworthy output.

But 16 hours? No tech solution will be done faster than that.

Don't build a factory for a one-off.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by bckr on Friday May 31, 2024 @01:43PM (#40538109)
> But 16 hours? No tech solution will be done faster than that.

True

> Don't build a factory for a one-off.

One thing on my wishlist is that I end up with a way to instantly transcribe my notes.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by sky2224 on Saturday June 01, 2024 @05:04PM (#40549052)
> One thing on my wishlist is that I end up with a way to instantly transcribe my notes.

Many of the implementations are clunky in my opinion, but this exists as a feature in many note taking tablet apps.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by nolamark on Saturday June 01, 2024 @07:45PM (#40550110)
bookmark the nuwa pen project, and check back in 6 month or so when/if experience reports are in. ( https://nuwapen.com/en-us )

If you are willing to use special paper, there is existing Neo Smartpen ( https://shop.neosmartpen.com/ )

Both will force use to us D1 ballpoint pen cartridges, so no suggestions in you must write with favorite fountain pen, or are a Hi-Tec-C only pen lifestyle.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by PartiallyTyped on Saturday June 01, 2024 @12:01PM (#40546832)
I mean, I'd totally try Tesseract[1], a few samples, and a python script. Shouldn't take more than 5 minutes to validate this.

Adobe also has the whole scan thing, and apple can — in some cases — correctly transcribe characters from images.

https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by motoxpro on Sunday June 02, 2024 @12:15AM (#40551290)
I'd say any of the language models are far better than Tesseract. I did some work in this space and it was an absolute nightmare, event working with pdfs.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by mrazomor on Sunday June 02, 2024 @02:34AM (#40551897)
Tesseract out of the box is terrible for anything non standard. I tried using it for the comic books. Unusable. The training for your font is doable, but it's very time intensive (while the tools are pretty good!).
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by radiantspace on Sunday June 02, 2024 @04:23AM (#40552443)
Handwritten notes, cmon! Don't waste time on tesseract for that.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by 123yawaworht456 on Sunday June 02, 2024 @10:07AM (#40554240)
from my experience with tesseract ~1 year ago, it was frequently fucking up even with crispy PNG screenshots

I really doubt it can handle handwriting

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by driscoll42 on Sunday June 02, 2024 @11:08AM (#40554788)
For OCR of handwriting, I did some comparative analysis a year back, and I found that Tesseract was... not good. However TrOCR was okay, certainly the best of the FOSS solutions. But Textract from Amazon was the best one by far far for handwriting, though your mileage will vary
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by lozenge on Saturday June 01, 2024 @06:23PM (#40549591)
Err, 16 hours just to read. Then you still need to deal with the inaccuracies of speech to text.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by weaksauce on Saturday June 01, 2024 @11:22PM (#40551083)
so what? it's 10 years of notes. even if you double or triple or quadruple the time editing it for inaccuracies it's still better than an ocr almost certainly.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by bongodongobob on Sunday June 02, 2024 @04:36AM (#40552502)
Have 4 people do it and you're done by lunch.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by Someone on Monday June 03, 2024 @09:14AM (#40562317)
If their handwriting is like mine, i think it will take more time that way. The other people will be interrupting them every second to ask “what’s that word?”.

Eventually, they’ll learn and speed will go up, but with this amount of work, work will be finished before they make up for the learning curve.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by lallysingh on Sunday June 02, 2024 @10:20AM (#40554387)
Do it over 2 weekends. Or an hour a night instead of TV.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by DonsDiscountGas on Sunday June 02, 2024 @10:47AM (#40554630)
Since OP is doing this deliberately for speech2text they will presumably enunciate very clearly and have a good mic. S2T has very good performance under ideal conditions like that
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by IanCal on Sunday June 02, 2024 @11:18AM (#40554855)
Modern speech to text is, for me, extremely accurate. You also have the original audio and can rerun things as and when technology improves.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by harlanji on Sunday June 02, 2024 @11:31AM (#40554949)
Yea, I use a cheapie voice recorder that only saves .wav files for ~10 memos per day, and Whisper transcripts are good. "Tiny" model, 4GB ram laptop. "Base" model runs too, but slower, and produces different inaccuracies.

But overall, if I were suggest an ideal process: 1) transcribe notes w/ Whisper, 2) play back the media in VLC with the transcripts and correct the errors. T = 16 hours of proofing/correction + ~8 hours of headless transcription of *.wav before hand.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by neverokay on Sunday June 02, 2024 @01:00PM (#40555572)
I’d add that I had better luck using smaller chunks (about 20 seconds) per wav file for accuracy. Whisper seems to go berserk if you pump in lengthy audio (30+ seconds).

I’d be tempted to at least try breaking down the notes into one line long images (about a sentence) each and give it ago with Gemini. I haven’t tested their ocr, but even if it has errors, I bet you could just ask Gemini again to best fix the sentence.

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by IanCal on Thursday June 06, 2024 @07:37AM (#40596225)
Whisper works on 30s chunks iirc. You need to use something that's automatically splitting up your input if it's longer.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by spaceship__sun on Saturday June 01, 2024 @07:15PM (#40549929)
Have you tried gpt4o?
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by tkgally on Saturday June 01, 2024 @08:01PM (#40550197)
Or Gemini 1.5 Pro. The latest multimodal models, while still far from perfect, do seem to be getting better at image recognition and OCR.
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by Void_ on Sunday June 02, 2024 @01:42AM (#40551665)
Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by DeathArrow on Sunday June 02, 2024 @08:09AM (#40553467)
>Don't build a factory for a one-off.

Maybe other people can use the software, so it's not a one-off?

Re:Ask HN: How to transcribe 1000s of handwritten notes by oslem on Sunday June 02, 2024 @02:08PM (#40556104)
I’d imagine 16 hours is a low estimate if OP wants to retain formatting.