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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by squigz on Saturday May 11, 2024 @05:18PM (#40330700)
> And that many common chronic disorders/illnesses (including ADHD, Autism, weight gain, etc) in our generation are actually attributable to a disfunctioning microbiome

All of those things have existed for ... ever

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by r3trohack3r on Saturday May 11, 2024 @06:01PM (#40330910)
They have.

But I do not believe they were as common prior to the 1960s as they are in the 2020s.

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by squigz on Saturday May 11, 2024 @08:42PM (#40331559)
Do you have data to inform that belief?
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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by superb_dev on Saturday May 11, 2024 @09:17PM (#40331726)
Were they less common, or unknown/heavily stigmatized?
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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by TylerE on Sunday May 12, 2024 @12:10AM (#40332231)
Another confounding variable is that we got so much better at testing many things that we have people living long enough to clearly manifest problems that may not have decades or centuries ago.

Sort of like how a big part of the increase in cancer deaths are people living long enough to die of cancer.

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by yareal on Sunday May 12, 2024 @02:25AM (#40332577)
In the 1960s you had to learn to mask your differences or you would suffer violence directed at you. We used to beat kids for not behaving in the ways we expect.

Get enough beatings, you learn to hide the thing that gets you beat.

I'm not at all convinced it was less common back then, just more hidden.

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by asdfman123 on Sunday May 12, 2024 @02:29AM (#40332592)
That's absolutely not true. Diabetes for instance used to be extremely rare and limited to the elites.

And, for instance, ADHD probably isn't a disorder if you live a very simple life and do manual labor all day. No hyperactivity, no DMV appointments, and your life is decided for you. Remember, all the lines are drawn arbitrarily and something is labeled a disorder when it doesn't work with our (very strange) modern world.

Can't comment on autism though, and this is not directly about micro biome obviously.

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by cja on Sunday May 12, 2024 @02:37AM (#40332626)
"ADHD probably isn't a disorder if you live a very simple life and do manual labor all day"

Why?

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by Kirth on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:02AM (#40333457)
Because physical activity and menial work that allows the mind some down time are effective ways to reduce ADHD symptoms.
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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by asdfman123 on Sunday May 12, 2024 @06:50PM (#40338172)
A lot of exercise increases focus and reduces fidgetiness. Also, if there's fewer things to keep track of and less everyday choices to make, it's easier.

I have ADHD bad but it virtually goes away while backpacking for reasons I described.

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Re:Metabolism of autism reveals developmental origins by ikiris on Sunday May 12, 2024 @02:57AM (#40332677)
Because they died...

This is like reading that seatbelts cause head injuries.

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