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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @02:15AM (#40294883)
I’d assume a lot of this is because you can’t get the software on MacOS. Not a choice. Who is choosing to use Windows 10/11 where you get tabloid news in the OS by default? Or choosing to hide the button to create local user accounts?
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by pompino on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @02:29AM (#40294963)
People overwhelmingly choose windows world-wide to get shit done. That answers the who.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by 2muchcoffeeman on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @03:28AM (#40295278)
So the same software exists on multiple platforms, there are no legacy or hardware compatibility considerations, interoperability considerations, no budget considerations, and the users have a choice in what they use?

I.e the same functionality exists with no draw backs and money was no object.

And they chose Windows? Seriously why?

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by pompino on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @03:50AM (#40295428)
We use the sales metrics and signals available to us.

I don't know what to say except resign to the fact that the world is fundamentally unfair, and you won't ever get to run the A/B experiment that you want. So yes, Windows it is !

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by goosedragons on Thursday May 09, 2024 @09:11AM (#40307868)
More choice in hardware. More flexibility in hardware. UI preferences. You can't get a Mac 2 in 1 or a Mac foldable or a Mac gaming notebook or a Mac that weighs less than a kilogram. You can't get a Mac with an OLED screen or a numpad. Some people just prefer the Windows UI too. I usually use Linux but between MacOS and Windows, I prefer the latter.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by steve1977 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @05:38AM (#40296034)
Who is choosing to use macOS, where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after another update, without any official statement from Apple that there was a problem and a fix?
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by wiseowise on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @08:00AM (#40297014)
I do. Because for all issues it has, it is still much better than whatever Windows has to offer.

> where non-Apple monitors and other 3rd party hardware just stops working after minor updates and then starts working again after another update, without any official statement from Apple that there was a problem and a fix?

At least my WiFi doesn't turn off indefinitely during sleep until I power cycle whole laptop because of a shitty driver.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by lupire on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:50AM (#40296935)
That's anti-competitive and frustrating, but not an argument against the value of a pure Apple hardware ecosystem.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by steve1977 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:54AM (#40296966)
Which was not the point. The question was who would be choosing Windows over macOS. I would and this is one of the reasons why.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by mschuster91 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:00AM (#40296570)
So what, Windows does the same. Printers [1], WiFi [2], VPN [3], Bluetooth devices [4], audio [5] - and that's just stuff I found via auto-completing "windows update breaks" on Google in under 5 minutes.

The only problem is that Apple is even worse at communicating issues than Microsoft is.

[1] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-wa...

[2] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-fi...

[3] https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/microsoft-sa...

[4] https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2019/06/12/microsof...

[5] https://www.theregister.com/2022/08/22/windows_10_update_kil...

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by steve1977 on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @07:25AM (#40296730)
The big difference is that Microsoft - at least usually - confirms and owns the issues.

With Apple, it's usually just crickets... nothing in the release notes, no official statements, nothing. It's just trial and error for the users to see if a particular update fixed the issue.