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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by mbreese on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:42PM (#40291868)
> No, the alternative is Android devices with everything except firmware built from source and signed by myself

Normal users will not do this. Just because many of the people here can build and sign a custom Android build doesn't mean that is a viable commercial alternative. It is great that is an option for those of us who can do it, but don't present it as a viable alternative to the iOS/Google ecosystems. The fraction of people who can and will be willing to do this is really small. And even if you can do it, how many people will want to maintain their custom built OSes?

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by rodgerd on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @07:17PM (#40292620)
> Normal users will not do this. J

Unfortunately a lot of the "freedom" crowd think that unless you want to be an 80s sysadmin you don't deserve security or privacy. Or computers.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by muyuu on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @08:43PM (#40293194)
the main reason the masses don't have privacy and security-centred systems is that they don't demand them and they will trade it away for a twopence or for the slightest increment in convenience

a maxim that seems to hold true at every level of computing is that users will not care about security unless forced into caring

with privacy they may care more, but they are easily conditioned to assume it's there or that nothing can be realistically be done about losing it

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by notpushkin on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @10:44PM (#40293850)
I, an engineer, am not doing this myself, too. There is a middle ground though: just use a privacy-oriented Android build, like DivestOS. [1]

There are a couple caveats:

1. It is still a bit tricky for a non-technical person to install. Should not be a problem if they know somebody who can help, though. There's been some progress making the process more user friendly recently (e.g. WebUSB-based GrapheneOS installer).

2. There are some papercuts if you don't install Google services on your phone. microG [2] helps with most but some still remain. My main concern with this setup is that I can't use Google Pay this way, but having to bring my card with me every time seems like an acceptable trade off to me.

[1]: https://divestos.org/

[2]: https://microg.org/

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by int_19h on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @01:55AM (#40294781)
The biggest problem with these kinds of setups is usually the banking apps which refuse to run if it's not "safe".
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by fsflover on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @06:40AM (#40296420)
Avoid such banks. Works for me.