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Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by izacus on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:00AM (#40286410)
They push you to buy the more expensive model with higher margins.

This is what they did when I was buying iPad Air - it starts with actually problematically low 64GB of Storage... and the 256GB model is the next one with massive price jump.

It's the same kind of "anchoring" (marketing term) that car dealers use to lure you into deciding for their car based on the cheapest 29.999$ model which with "useful" equipment will end you costing like 45.000$

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by aeyes on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:20AM (#40286784)
Honest question: What data do you store on an iPad Air? On a phone you might have some photos and videos but isn't a tablet just a media consumption device? Especially on iOS where they try to hide the filesystem as much as possible.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by izacus on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:23AM (#40286825)
No data, but iOS apps have gotten massive, caches have gotten massive and install a game or two and 64GB is gone.

Not to mention that occasionally is nice to have a set of downloaded media available for vacation/travel and 64GB isn't enough to download week worth of content from Netflix.

This is why this is so annoying - you're right, I don't need 512GB or 256GB. But I'd still like to have more than "You're out of space!!" amount.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by trogdor on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:42AM (#40287127)
Where is 64GB coming from?
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by izacus on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:06PM (#40289325)
The base iPad Air model - the one the price is most quoted - is 64GB.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by trogdor on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:39PM (#40289792)
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by izacus on Wednesday May 08, 2024 @05:49PM (#40303036)
Not sure if you're pretending to not know, but all previous base iPad models were 64GB.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by nozzlegear on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:44PM (#40288084)
I've had the original iPad Pro with 64gb since it first released and have somehow never run out of storage. Maybe my problem is that I don't download games. I'd suggest using a USB drive for downloaded media though if you're planning to travel. All of the media apps I use (Netflix, YouTube, Crunchyroll, etc.) support them. That's worked well for me and is one reason I was comfortable buying the 64gb model.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by sroussey on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:22PM (#40288708)
How do you get Netflix to use an external drive?
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by nozzlegear on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:00PM (#40292032)
Sorry, I thought I had done this with Netflix but I tried it just now and couldn't find the option. Then I googled it and it looks like it was never supported, I must've misremembered Netflix being an option.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by jdminhbg on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:30PM (#40287877)
> isn't a tablet just a media consumption device?

This is actually most of the storage space -- videos downloaded for consumption in places with no or bad internet.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by magicalhippo on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:54PM (#40289165)
Surely it supports USB OTG? Or is that just an Android thing[1]?

[1]: https://liliputing.com/you-can-use-a-floppy-disk-drive-with-...

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by izacus on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:07PM (#40289335)
Even on Android you can't download streaming media to OTG USB storage.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by adamomada on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @05:48PM (#40291920)
Once again, pirates win, paying customers lose
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by kmeisthax on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:23PM (#40289555)
Yes. However, applications have to be specifically written to use external storage, which requires popping open the same file picker you use to interact with non-Apple cloud storage. If they store data in their own container, then that can only ever go on the internal storage, iCloud, or device backups. You aren't allowed to rugpull an app and move its storage somewhere else.

I mean, what would happen if you yanked out the drive while an app was running on it?

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by maxsilver on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @12:05PM (#40287481)
> What data do you store on an iPad Air?

Games. You can put maybe three or four significant games on an iPad Air before it maxes out. (MTG Arena is almost 20GB all on it's own, Genshin Impact is like 40+ GB)

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by lotsofpulp on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:54AM (#40287313)
Email, password manager, iOS keychain, photos, videos, etc should all be there if synced to iCloud.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by imtringued on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @11:51AM (#40287271)
As he said, you buy excess storage so that you don't have to think about how much storage you are using. Meanwhile if you barely have enough, you're going to have to play data tetris. You can find 256GB SSDs that sell for as low as 20€. How much money is it worth to not worry about running out of data? Probably more than the cost of the SSD at these prices.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by wincy on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @01:23PM (#40288727)
We use PLEX for long trips in the car for the kids. Like 24 hour drives. We drive to Florida in the winter and the iPads easily run out of space after we’ve downloaded a season or two of Adventure Time and Daniel Tiger.

I could fit more if I didn’t insist on downloading everything 1080p I guess.

Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by skydhash on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @06:13PM (#40292172)
VLC or Infuse + external storage.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by lozenge on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @02:09PM (#40289377)
iPad OS is 17 GB and every app seems to think it'll be the only one installed.
Re:Apple introduces M4 chip by nomel on Tuesday May 07, 2024 @07:05PM (#40292544)
> but isn't a tablet just a media consumption device

In my sphere, everyone with an iPad uses it for the Apple Pencil and/or video editing. Raw files for drawings get surprisingly big, once you get up into the many tens of layers, considering an artist can draw a few a day.