Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous solar construction system

Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by nojvek on Friday April 19, 2024 @05:40PM (#40092221)

If we want to grow US economy by making existing humans more productive per capita, then we need cheaper energy per capita, cheaper intelligent robots per capita. Also goes to say we need less NIMBY-ism per capita.

We need high speed rail building robots, solar farm building robots, home building robots, healthcare robots. Cheap repairable open robots. Robots that defend us, robots that transport.

More robots than humans. More robot companies diverse in their approaches.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by bugbuddy on Friday April 19, 2024 @05:44PM (#40092259)

Please reconsider the part “robots that defend us.” There have been many books and movies made about this idea. I don’t think we want it.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by kiba on Friday April 19, 2024 @06:17PM (#40092532)

Movies are fiction. You can't make policies based on fiction. You could make policies based on real concern shown by the movies, but they have to be based on reality.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Friday April 19, 2024 @07:35PM (#40093044)

You're perceiving the causal chain in the wrong direction.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by newsclues on Friday April 19, 2024 @05:51PM (#40092309)

We can’t be afraid of technology because of movies.

Do you not know of all the technology that we enjoy today that had movies and books decrying the dangers?

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by bugbuddy on Friday April 19, 2024 @06:18PM (#40092551)

Well, I would be hard pressed to find an example for the wheels. :)

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by ectopasm83 on Friday April 19, 2024 @10:20PM (#40094081)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVKgY1ilx0Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cghg-QyTP_M

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by bugbuddy on Friday April 19, 2024 @11:49PM (#40094640)

Don’t count. Wheels have spokes.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Friday April 19, 2024 @07:36PM (#40093047)

>Do you not know of all the technology that we enjoy today that had movies and books decrying the dangers?

Like what?

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by newsclues on Friday April 19, 2024 @08:33PM (#40093396)

The printing press!

https://macleans.ca/facebook-instant-articles/boo-a-brief-hi...

Btw I think social media is a very dangerous tool being abused and exploited by many.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by HeatrayEnjoyer on Friday April 19, 2024 @07:37PM (#40093059)

Rebranding the war department to the "defense" department is some of the best gaslighting ever pulled off.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by grecy on Saturday April 20, 2024 @12:55AM (#40094928)

> Robots that defend us

Defend from who, and who is us ?

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by Ekaros on Saturday April 20, 2024 @03:47AM (#40095579)

Maybe from attacking others? So each time someone calls for a war or some such action they would be shot automatically by AI controlled robot with gun. Seems effective and reasonable solution.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by XorNot on Saturday April 20, 2024 @05:14AM (#40095954)

How can you seriously be this naive?

There's a country in Europe currently being invaded in a war of conquest because the invader can for the explicit purpose of subjugating the population and seizing territory and natural resources.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by abswest on Saturday April 20, 2024 @02:52PM (#40099879)

Lets put a face to a name - Russia, somehow yet not officially recognized as a terrorist state.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by CommanderData on Sunday April 21, 2024 @04:06AM (#40103966)

There's another that's killed 71 children every day for the last 6 months.

We support that Terror state too, Israel.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by vasco on Saturday April 20, 2024 @03:01AM (#40095432)

I'm 100% up for less NIMBYing but I'm not sure it'd work in my neighborhood.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by yurishimo on Saturday April 20, 2024 @03:29AM (#40095522)

This mindset it exactly nimbyism. You live there so it’s your responsibility to fight for your desires as well!

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by vasco on Saturday April 20, 2024 @03:37AM (#40095544)

woosh

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by protomolecule on Saturday April 20, 2024 @04:45AM (#40095833)

You don't need 'capita' in this world.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by sgu999 on Saturday April 20, 2024 @08:49AM (#40096997)

What will humans do in that setup? I always fail to understand how replacing labor by capital in our current system helps for prosperity once a certain threshold of productivity is reached.

Sure selling your physical labor isn't ideal, but it's better than having no wage at all because there's nothing in your reach that isn't done by robots. We won't have a basic income, Americans can't even get a proper healthcare...

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by countvonbalzac on Saturday April 20, 2024 @11:52AM (#40098271)

I guess theoretically humans do more complex work? Rather than screwing in a solar panel, humans supervise the robots that screw in the solar panels. Then in theory we'll have the same number of humans employed in the solar industry but 10x the solar installed per year. When spreadsheets came along we didn't have less accounting work, we had infinitely more. That being said I am very skeptical that AI will be the same, or that our society is in any way prepared for a rapid transition away from human labor.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by nojvek on Sunday April 21, 2024 @01:52PM (#40107690)

Humans working on farms with tractors are more productive than humans working with oxen to till land.

Accountants working with computers are more productive than accountants working with books and a hand-held calculator.

There will be a Pareto curve of distribution.

If we want to reduce the cost of things, we have to reduce the cost of inputs and make the markets transparent (while holding a base level of quality and safety).

This is why TVs and electronics become cheap while healthcare costs balloon out.

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by financetechbro on Saturday April 20, 2024 @11:37AM (#40098164)

Everyone will become skilled technicians

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Re:Charge Robotics (YC S21) announces Sunrise autonomous sol... by rangestransform on Saturday April 20, 2024 @01:24PM (#40098956)

The construction unions (at least in nyc) are more likely to throw rocks at the robots

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