New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by seattle_spring on Saturday March 30, 2024 @04:51PM (#39878526)

I’ve always wondered that too. A lot of people will claim that “it’s their right” to not be recognized by surveillance and that’s why they use those covers, but seems a lot more likely that they don’t want take responsibility if they get in an accident that they can slip out of without being identified.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by pavel_lishin on Saturday March 30, 2024 @07:51PM (#39879831)

They're also great for running tolls.

I don't feel great about toll roads, personally, but I do feel that if you're using a license plate contraption to dodge tolls, your car should be crushed into a cube while you watch.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by brewdad on Saturday March 30, 2024 @06:41PM (#39879394)

I think a lot of drivers view speeding and extending yellow lights as a bit of a cat and mouse game. As Carlin once said “Cop didn’t see it? I didn’t do it.”

Red light and speed cameras give police too much advantage in this “game” so they seek to take their own advantage.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by mike_d on Saturday March 30, 2024 @08:52PM (#39880279)

I now have a Flock camera at both ends of my street. There is no way for me to come or go from my own house without the government having a record of it.

Unfortunately installing a smoke cover on my plate and waiting to get pulled over and issued a ticket is the only real way to kick off a 4th amendment challenge.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justahuman74 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:55PM (#39881260)

Spraypaint on the fixed-position camera lenses

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:29PM (#39881138)

Assuming you have a mobile device on you, that was already the case, just from location data from ATT/Verizon/Tmobile towers.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by mike_d on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:17AM (#39881887)

That requires a warrant (I'm very familiar with the process to request data from cell carriers). ALPR can be queried at any time because they are government owned cameras.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by lotsofpulp on Sunday March 31, 2024 @05:36AM (#39882764)

After Snowden and stuff like this, I assume if the government (at least federal) really wants it, they can procure it. Plus, the location data is probably saved so it’s just a matter of querying a specific phone number to see the whole history.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/16/20696222/att-location-dat...

> The suit stems from recent investigations into how AT&T and other wireless carriers share the sensitive data. A New York Times article last year found that law enforcement has used the data to track phones without a court order. In another investigation, published earlier this year, Motherboard was able to pay a bounty hunter $300 to track the location of a phone using the data. Several lawmakers were quick to criticize the companies’ policies following the Motherboard report.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by brokenmachine on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @01:03AM (#39902559)

>Several lawmakers were quick to criticize the companies’ policies following the Motherboard report.

You'd think, being lawmakers, they might be able to think of a more effective method to stop the behavior.

But no, apparently nothing can be done. Move along, nothing to see here.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ungreased0675 on Sunday March 31, 2024 @12:48PM (#39885812)

Privacy is a spectrum. The “they already have all my information” seems like avoidance of a complex topic. Just because some people hand over all of their information to social media apps doesn’t mean we should tolerate even more intrusions into our privacy.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by salawat on Saturday March 30, 2024 @09:16PM (#39880426)

...Or... Do as teenagers and other mis^H^H^H privacy valuing, god fearing, concerned citizens have done.

Go "lose" them.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by jpeggtulsa on Sunday March 31, 2024 @08:37AM (#39883718)

You are already being tracked by your cell phone pings, how is this any different?

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @09:29AM (#39884064)

You're assuming some things there, which may or may not be true for this person.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:28AM (#39884595)

Even as a person that doesn't carry a cell phone, it's statistically likely that I'm still trackable (beyond just license plates).

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @07:15PM (#39889111)

Based on what?

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Sunday March 31, 2024 @08:55PM (#39889781)

e.g. Gait analysis.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:30PM (#39890331)

Is that in widespread use in your area?

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:09AM (#39894944)

At most Target and WalMart locations, yes.

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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:39AM (#39895338)

k. Sounds like if you're not carrying a mobile phone, you'd have to go out of your way to be tracked then. ;)

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