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Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by everybodyknows on Saturday March 30, 2024 @03:05PM (#39877641)
> missing/covered plates

Here in CA, I routinely see illegible plates covered with smoky grey plastic.

Don't understand why these apparently are not promptly pulled over by the cops, with the owners fined enough hundreds of dollars to permanently effect better behavior. No high-tech needed.

But then, politicos do love their science fair projects ...

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by seattle_spring on Saturday March 30, 2024 @04:51PM (#39878526)
I’ve always wondered that too. A lot of people will claim that “it’s their right” to not be recognized by surveillance and that’s why they use those covers, but seems a lot more likely that they don’t want take responsibility if they get in an accident that they can slip out of without being identified.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by pavel_lishin on Saturday March 30, 2024 @07:51PM (#39879831)
They're also great for running tolls.

I don't feel great about toll roads, personally, but I do feel that if you're using a license plate contraption to dodge tolls, your car should be crushed into a cube while you watch.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by brewdad on Saturday March 30, 2024 @06:41PM (#39879394)
I think a lot of drivers view speeding and extending yellow lights as a bit of a cat and mouse game. As Carlin once said “Cop didn’t see it? I didn’t do it.”

Red light and speed cameras give police too much advantage in this “game” so they seek to take their own advantage.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by mike_d on Saturday March 30, 2024 @08:52PM (#39880279)
I now have a Flock camera at both ends of my street. There is no way for me to come or go from my own house without the government having a record of it.

Unfortunately installing a smoke cover on my plate and waiting to get pulled over and issued a ticket is the only real way to kick off a 4th amendment challenge.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justahuman74 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:55PM (#39881260)
Spraypaint on the fixed-position camera lenses
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by lotsofpulp on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:29PM (#39881138)
Assuming you have a mobile device on you, that was already the case, just from location data from ATT/Verizon/Tmobile towers.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by mike_d on Sunday March 31, 2024 @02:17AM (#39881887)
That requires a warrant (I'm very familiar with the process to request data from cell carriers). ALPR can be queried at any time because they are government owned cameras.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by lotsofpulp on Sunday March 31, 2024 @05:36AM (#39882764)
After Snowden and stuff like this, I assume if the government (at least federal) really wants it, they can procure it. Plus, the location data is probably saved so it’s just a matter of querying a specific phone number to see the whole history.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/16/20696222/att-location-dat...

> The suit stems from recent investigations into how AT&T and other wireless carriers share the sensitive data. A New York Times article last year found that law enforcement has used the data to track phones without a court order. In another investigation, published earlier this year, Motherboard was able to pay a bounty hunter $300 to track the location of a phone using the data. Several lawmakers were quick to criticize the companies’ policies following the Motherboard report.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by brokenmachine on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @01:03AM (#39902559)
>Several lawmakers were quick to criticize the companies’ policies following the Motherboard report.

You'd think, being lawmakers, they might be able to think of a more effective method to stop the behavior.

But no, apparently nothing can be done. Move along, nothing to see here.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ungreased0675 on Sunday March 31, 2024 @12:48PM (#39885812)
Privacy is a spectrum. The “they already have all my information” seems like avoidance of a complex topic. Just because some people hand over all of their information to social media apps doesn’t mean we should tolerate even more intrusions into our privacy.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by salawat on Saturday March 30, 2024 @09:16PM (#39880426)
...Or... Do as teenagers and other mis^H^H^H privacy valuing, god fearing, concerned citizens have done.

Go "lose" them.

Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by jpeggtulsa on Sunday March 31, 2024 @08:37AM (#39883718)
You are already being tracked by your cell phone pings, how is this any different?
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @09:29AM (#39884064)
You're assuming some things there, which may or may not be true for this person.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:28AM (#39884595)
Even as a person that doesn't carry a cell phone, it's statistically likely that I'm still trackable (beyond just license plates).
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @07:15PM (#39889111)
Based on what?
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Sunday March 31, 2024 @08:55PM (#39889781)
e.g. Gait analysis.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Sunday March 31, 2024 @10:30PM (#39890331)
Is that in widespread use in your area?
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by ProllyInfamous on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:09AM (#39894944)
At most Target and WalMart locations, yes.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by justinclift on Monday April 01, 2024 @11:39AM (#39895338)
k. Sounds like if you're not carrying a mobile phone, you'd have to go out of your way to be tracked then. ;)
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by xhkkffbf on Saturday March 30, 2024 @05:15PM (#39878739)
Some people will cleverly glue a leaf over 50, 60 or even 80% of the number. How did it get there? I don't know. Must be nature's fault. I'm so sorry officer.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by nanomonkey on Saturday March 30, 2024 @05:43PM (#39878977)
Better yet, there are electromagnetic covers that allow you to drop the "leaf" while you're being pulled over for plausible deniability.
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by Red_Leaves_Flyy on Saturday March 30, 2024 @09:15PM (#39880420)
Lot of premeditation there
Re:New Calif Highway Surveillance Uses More Than Cameras by kylehotchkiss on Sunday March 31, 2024 @01:48AM (#39881780)
At least they have plates. I see cars driving plate-free in southern CA on a normal basis.