Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by mattmaroon on Thursday March 28, 2024 @10:45PM
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The door handles are fucking awful in the snow. At least heat them so they melt the ice.
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Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by SECProto on Thursday March 28, 2024 @11:17PM
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I haven't had one so I can't directly weigh in, but up here, winter = physically pulling hard on door handles to get the seals to unstick. I can't imagine something like cybertruck (no handles at all) working in real winter.
I'm hopeful for Tesla to release their 25k car, and I'm really hoping for my car to last a couple years longer so I can get something from a different manufacturer that realizes some design standards have good reasons behind them.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by dghlsakjg on Friday March 29, 2024 @10:26AM
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The good news is that the panel gaps are big enough that you can get your hands in there to pull the door open!
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by vel0city on Friday March 29, 2024 @11:15AM
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I've got a Mach E, it has similar "push the button and the door pops open a bit" style of opening. I had it outside during a sleet storm where it got a good layer of ice on it. I just pressed the button on the door and it managed to break the ice and open just fine.
The door openers can have a good bit of force behind them.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by hooverd on Thursday March 28, 2024 @10:54PM
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Say what you will about BYD but at least they have door handles.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by mattmaroon on Thursday March 28, 2024 @11:14PM
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I really don’t understand it. How many MPGe could door handles subtract? 1? Is it even that much?
Is it aesthetics? I don’t think theirs look any better. And they feel flimsy AF. They give you nothing to hold onto when manipulating the door. Even if they didn’t freeze, I just don’t like them.
So we’re going to make this more complicated, more failure prone thing that looks and feels worse for no real benefit?
The worst part is that other EVs are adopting it.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by Solvency on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:08AM
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It's Elon. Do you really have to ask? It's the most braindead, arrogant, Elon Musky possible decision.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by pandaman on Friday March 29, 2024 @11:25AM
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It's not Elon. Many other EVs have the similar handle-less design. E.g. Mustang Mach, Hyundai Ioniq/ Kia EV, Lucid Air, etc.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by jen20 on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:29PM
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Recessed door handles to avoid MPG impact was a solved problem by the Fiat Panda, at least (probably earlier!) - the only rationale is cost, or meme copying.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by dzhiurgis on Friday March 29, 2024 @04:34AM
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It all compounds. Lower mpge > increased range > less battery weight > increased range + lower cost.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by dghlsakjg on Friday March 29, 2024 @10:29AM
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So why are the tires super wide on Teslas, with consequently high rolling resistance?
The door handle is a gimmick, afaict, with so much other low hanging fruit in the design.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by dzhiurgis on Friday March 29, 2024 @04:24PM
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No one wants an anaemic Tesla either.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by SECProto on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:33PM
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I would much rather drive an anemic Tesla - skinny cheaper tires, lighter so easier to change myself.
Re:Tesla's $25,000 Car Means Tossing Out the 100-Year-Old As...
by etempleton on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:24PM
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Because the cars are heavy and with have high torque. They need the extra grip to have those insanely low 0-60 times.