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Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by bombcar on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @06:02AM (#39825980)
Because bridges over harbors are quite common an incidents like this are rare.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by mcv on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @06:45AM (#39826234)
The Dutch ports of both Amsterdam and Rotterdam have no bridges at all. It's all tunnels. I think that's the best way to go; the least chance of conflict between road and water traffic.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by bombcar on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @08:03AM (#39826798)
Tunnels can have other issues: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Tunnel_fires and given American drivers I think I’ll take my chances with the big old boats.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by keenmaster on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @06:58AM (#39826329)
Often in America the government waits for something to fail miserably before engaging in a high effort high cost activity that requires a lot of coordination and public buy-in.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by FrustratedMonky on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @07:27AM (#39826522)
Wow.

Random ship hits a bridge.

Shakes fist at sky "the government".

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by Muromec on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @07:55AM (#39826731)
But that's what you do with random events -- create policies to prevent them from happening, lowering the incidence rate and minimizing damage once it occurs. Which is exactly what government and laws are all about.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by FrustratedMonky on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @03:46PM (#39832033)
That is a generous reading of the parent comment.

It sounded much more like a common trope, "the do-nothing government just lets things fail, doesn't take action until something fails".

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by etempleton on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @08:32AM (#39827037)
The amount of arm chair quarterbacking here is astounding. Reddit has a more nuanced conversation than HN right now.

A bridge got hit by a container ship at speed and folks here are talking about this like the bridge was not up to standard, or why there was a bridge there at all when they know nothing about the locale. I am not a structural engineer, but I am going to go ahead and guess that not much would still be standing from a direct hit from a container ship. And from observation bridges like this exist all over the world and don’t regularly get struck by container ships.

It was a freak accident.

If we want to point fingers or question things, perhaps if anything the question is why the container ship lost power repeatedly? Was this a known issue before leaving port?

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by HarryHirsch on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @09:41AM (#39827698)
German Wikipedia has an article on ship deflectors. What is says there is that ship collisions were viewed an an inevitable hazard until the 1980 collapse of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in Tampa. That was 45 years ago.
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by bombcar on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @01:56PM (#39830784)
Trying to search for "ship deflectors" or whatever just brings up pages and pages of Star Wars shields and such in English.

I know they exist, and perhaps after this they'll exist a bit more.

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by mcv on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @08:41AM (#39827119)
> A bridge got hit by a container ship at speed and folks here are talking about this like the bridge was not up to standard, or why there was a bridge there at all when they know nothing about the locale.

You're right, I don't. But I do know there are other locales where they seem to explicitly avoid bridges crossing heavy ocean traffic.

Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by mopenstein on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @07:39AM (#39826622)
All roads should be underground! What if a plane crashes into a surface road? Or a meteor? Somebody think of the children!
Re:The Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, Maryland Has C... by astrodust on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @10:14AM (#39828087)
After making all roads underground: "Tunnel collapses are killing all our children! Let's make all roads above ground!"