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Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by mooreds on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:19AM (#39702937)
How does it compare to Catch-22?
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by sireat on Thursday March 14, 2024 @12:56PM (#39706327)
I thought Švejk to be much funnier.

Rather I thought Catch-22 to be a so-so imitation of Švejk.

Then again I've been re-reading Švejk since childhood.

Similarly, how you can tell when Hasek dies before finishing Švejk and his friend takes over with the ending, the jokes just fall off a bit.

Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by Lariscus on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:23AM (#39702972)
Joseph Heller claimed he would have never written it had he never read The Good Soldier Švejk.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by mooreds on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:33AM (#39703071)
Hmm. A quick Google didn't find that.

From https://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/17/theater/newsandfeatures/t...

"Heller, who died in 1999, told various interviewers that Céline and Kafka were his most powerful influences and that "Svejk" was "just a funny book.""

Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by Zircom on Thursday March 14, 2024 @09:43AM (#39703910)
Found a quote, had to use the anglicized spelling though.

https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2011/08/heller-201108

"The Czech writer Arnošt Lustig claimed that Heller had told him at a New York party for Milos Forman in the late 1960s that he couldn’t have written Catch-22 without first reading Jaroslav Hašek’s unfinished World War I satire, The Good Soldier Schweik. "

Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by malermeister on Thursday March 14, 2024 @03:45PM (#39708176)
Germanized, really.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by _visgean on Thursday March 14, 2024 @11:09AM (#39705003)
there are some references in catch-22 and its follow up Closing time.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by bee_rider on Thursday March 14, 2024 @02:21PM (#39707277)
I was really surprised by Closing Time. I forget all the details of it, but I remember finding it just relentlessly depressing. The only degree to which I thought it worked was, it really emphasized the extent to which we really don’t need to know what happens to characters after the story is done, it is better if we just imagine they go on to have their lives.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by _visgean on Thursday March 14, 2024 @07:11PM (#39710096)
Same. It was so heavy compared to catch-22. But I am not sure the aging perspective could have been written any different.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by rightbyte on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:51AM (#39703279)
I think if you like one, you like the other. I think the Svejk book have a more innocent tone and is less cynical. But I was way to young when I read them to have a "deep" understanding of the contexts.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by romwell on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:40PM (#39710813)
I'd say it's more cynical.

There's a place for hope in Catch-22.

In Svejk, the gruesome absurdity of the war prevails in all situations.

Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by imjonse on Thursday March 14, 2024 @09:24AM (#39703681)
I found Catch-22 much more hilarious than Švejk.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by ufocia on Thursday March 14, 2024 @09:32AM (#39703772)
I thought Svejk was more available to a younger reader. However, like someone already mentioned, it has enough layers for a reader of almost any age to enjoy. I'd read them both.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by watwut on Thursday March 14, 2024 @10:33AM (#39704546)
It makes sense unlike Catch-22 that does not make sense.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by soperj on Thursday March 14, 2024 @12:39PM (#39706098)
it only makes sense once you've already read it once.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by red-iron-pine on Thursday March 14, 2024 @01:12PM (#39706495)
Catch-22 is funny during the read but after the end, and in reflection, is pretty dark.

Svejk is generally funnier, IMO

Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by mcepl on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:51PM (#39709378)
Švejk is too much slanted by the expectations of “just funny” and by (absolutely awesome, but too nice) illustrations by Josef Lada. When listening to the audio version of the book, I was shocked how actually horrific story it is. I have mentioned elsewhere in this thread a Czech literary historian (M. C. Putna) who called “The Good Solider Švejk” as “Kafka’s ‘Trial’ by other means”. I think he is quite correct.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by The_Colonel on Friday March 15, 2024 @07:49AM (#39714480)
As a child, I understood Svejk as pure comedy and didn't get any of the darkness.
Re:The Good Soldier Švejk by romwell on Thursday March 14, 2024 @08:38PM (#39710788)
>How does it compare to Catch-22?

It's the Catch-22 of WW1.

A bit more gruesome and obscene, both less serious and much darker than Catch-22, and highlighting a wider scope of social (and military) issues.