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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by 4bpp on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:03AM (#39482301)
I imagine the folks over at NSA must be rubbing their hands over the possibilities this will open up for querying the data they have been diligently storing over the years.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by avarun on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:43AM (#39482889)
Palantir already provides this product to them.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by barnabees on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:43PM (#39488373)
Palantir provides this by re-packaging and re-selling GPT-4, Claude, and Gemini
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by hehhehaha on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:26PM (#39489108)
Palantir sells a glorified Airflow instance
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by speedgoose on Saturday February 24, 2024 @01:40AM (#39489648)
I heard it’s a big Cassandra too. But that’s only the backends and the frontend and their data engineers are important too.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by seanmcdirmid on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:46AM (#39482920)
They could always try using tech to reduce their false positive rate rather than increase it.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by croes on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:11AM (#39482416)
That's the point where hallucinations are pretty dangerous.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by pmarreck on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:21AM (#39482559)
Not too hard to verify.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by dylan604 on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:48AM (#39482953)
Verify? There are plenty of examples where things have been "verified" to prove a point. WMDs ring a bell?
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by pmarreck on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:15PM (#39486184)
What is your point? That obtaining absolute knowledge of truth is impossible, and therefore anything claiming to be true is worthless?

In general, be careful not to kill "good" on the way to attempting to obtain "perfect" in vain. And GPT4's hallucination rate is quite low at this point (may of course depend on the topic).

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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by dylan604 on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:18PM (#39486228)
Not at all. I'm coming from the opposite side saying that anything can be "verified" true if you just continue to repeat it as truth so that people accept it. Say often, say it loud. Facts be damned
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by phatfish on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:21PM (#39487424)
This has always happened and will continue always happening. Best not get caught up on it, just put people right when you feel you have the facts to back it up.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by dylan604 on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:02PM (#39488128)
10 years ago, I would have agreed with you. Today, facts are useless. Once someone has picked a side, there is no changing it for the majority of people.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by pmarreck on Friday February 23, 2024 @04:26PM (#39486326)
Yes but that's the argument by repetition (ad nauseam) fallacy
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by dylan604 on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:11PM (#39488187)
fallacy or not, it works.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by 0dayz on Saturday February 24, 2024 @08:10AM (#39491236)
USA never technically lied about Sadam's WMD, as he had used it against the kurds and during the war with Iran.

They did lie about Sadam trying to get nukes.

Now the problem is whenever the WMD was produced before or after 1991 as that was when Iraq agreed to dismantle.

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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by jeffbee on Friday February 23, 2024 @05:39PM (#39487056)
NSA does not have large-scale storage. If they did, it would be in a building somewhere, it would have electric power and they would have bought storage devices for it from some company. The largest-known actual NSA datacenter is the size of a runty leftover from having built a real cloud datacenter, and there's only one of those while FAMG have hundreds of far larger datacenters.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by CobrastanJorji on Friday February 23, 2024 @05:48PM (#39487141)
Phew, glad the NSA doesn't have any large scale storage. Big relief. By the way, what do they use their $10 billion AWS contract for?
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by jeffbee on Friday February 23, 2024 @05:50PM (#39487162)
I know it's not storing every email, phone call, photo, and video ever transmitted on the internet, like certain people want you to believe.

A $10b AWS contract would not even amount to enough storage to keep one copy of the public web.

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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by pavs on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:45PM (#39487607)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center#%3A%7E%3Atext...

Very confidently incorrect.

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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by jeffbee on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:45PM (#39489198)
If you think 100,000 square feet is a large data center, you obviously do not work in the industry.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by subtra3t on Saturday February 24, 2024 @09:14AM (#39491617)
Ad hominem much?
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by resolutebat on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:16PM (#39487377)
I'm fairly sure the budget of archive.is is less than $10B. (Admittedly they don't store videos though.)
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by taylorfinley on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:43PM (#39487589)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

Genuine question, is Exabyte-scale small in the context of cloud? Is Amazon stacking yottabytes?

Edit: 'Exabyte scale' was from a Forbes article in 2013

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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by jeffbee on Friday February 23, 2024 @11:43PM (#39489190)
If you think this is a large datacenter, you are mistaken. You could fit this inside any cloud datacenter, and there are hundreds of those. The NSA thing draws 65MW. Google alone has over 7000MW of first-party energy generation resources, that doesn't begin to account for what they draw from the grid, and they're not even the biggest datacenter owner.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by elorant on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:44PM (#39487594)
A building somewhere. Like inside a military base for example. Good luck finding out what’s inside it and having anyone who worked on a restricted contract telling you about it.
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Re:I Spent a Week with Gemini Pro 1.5–It's Fantastic by unethical_ban on Friday February 23, 2024 @06:40PM (#39487566)
Given the history of NSA, warrantless surveillance and the overt existence of the Utah data center + collaboration with telcos and big tech, and the promise of AI analysis and quantum computing...

I find it difficult to accept your underlying premise that NSA doesn't have access to a massive amount of data which AI may be able to analyze for them.

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