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Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by Eduard on Thursday February 22, 2024 @06:33AM (#39465660)
seems like as if Gemini was trained excessively on Google PR and marketing material.

Case in point: https://store.google.com/

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by solumunus on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:09AM (#39465955)
I’m in the UK and there’s predominantly white people showing on the page.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by xanderlewis on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:52AM (#39466359)
That’s because almost all of this is a distinctly American obsession and problem. Unfortunately it’s gleefully been exported worldwide into contexts where it doesn’t immediately — if at all — apply over the last five years or so and now we’re all saddled with this slow-growing infection.

Entire careers are built on the sort of thing that led Google to this place, and they’re not gonna give up easily.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by busterarm on Thursday February 22, 2024 @08:29AM (#39466738)
While I mostly agree with you, I just want to point out that the UK, Canada and Australia have this illness as well.

What was an American problem has become an Anglophone problem.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by sevagh on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:36AM (#39467694)
The Anglosphere/commonwealth move as one under the heel of the U.S. There's no point speaking of them as independent entities that "happen to agree"
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by unmole on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:42PM (#39471257)
> Anglosphere/commonwealth

India, Nigeria and Guayana move as one?

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by sevagh on Monday March 04, 2024 @01:05PM (#39593716)
The politically relevant parts of the anglosphere*
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by unmole on Friday March 08, 2024 @04:49AM (#39639542)
So, Canada and Australia are somehow more politically relevant than India?
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by andsoitis on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:01AM (#39468073)
> What was an American problem has become an Anglophone problem.

Memetic virulence.

But maybe it is also puncturaing through the language and cultural membranes, as evidenced by things like this material from a Dutch university: https://www.maastrichtuniversity.nl/about-um/diversity-inclu...

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by trallnag on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:42AM (#39468721)
Nah, it's not just the US. Ever heard of the BBC? They are from Britain.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by xanderlewis on Thursday February 22, 2024 @11:33AM (#39469514)
You’ve missed my point. I’m complaining that it started in the US (where it makes comparative, though still very little, sense) and has spread to places it doesn’t belong.

I certainly have my own thoughts about the recent output and hiring choices of the BBC.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by optimalsolver on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:52PM (#39470624)
I thought BBC was more of an American obsession?
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by hot_gril on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:40PM (#39471229)
Same but I'm in the US.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by Semaphor on Thursday February 22, 2024 @06:54AM (#39465825)
Not a great link for an international audience. Here in Germany, the top image is a white person: https://i.imgur.com/wqfdJ95.png
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by nuz on Thursday February 22, 2024 @06:57AM (#39465849)
I'm not even seeing any people on my version. Just devices. Wonder why
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by sidibe on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:18AM (#39466054)
I'm suspicious that some of the people who love to be outraged gave it some instructions to do that prior to asking for the pictures.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by indy on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:49AM (#39466326)
That's an Asian person
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by Semaphor on Thursday February 22, 2024 @08:10AM (#39466526)
Interesting, even on a second look I'm not able to tell that.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by jannyfer on Thursday February 22, 2024 @09:01AM (#39467170)
That’s a Scandinavian person
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by skinkestek on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:03PM (#39469897)
As a Scandinavian person, I at least do not think it is a typical Scandinavian person in Scandinavia. The first thing I think is German, or an artist.

I cannot point to anything specific though so it might just be the styling which makes her look like an artist or something.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by Traubenfuchs on Thursday February 22, 2024 @07:26AM (#39466111)
First of all, are you sure? I identify that person as Asian.

Secondly: In Austria, I am sent to https://store.google.com/?pli=1&hl=de and just see a phone, which is probably the safest solution.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by Workaccount2 on Thursday February 22, 2024 @10:49AM (#39468837)
Recently they have been better, but since I noticed this a number of years ago, google is extremely adverse to putting white people and especially white males in their marketing - unless it is a snippet with someone internal. Then it's pretty often a white male.

To be clear, I don't think that this would even be that bad. But when you look at the demographics of people who use pixel phones, it's like google is using grandpas in the marketing material for graphics cards.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by dormento on Thursday February 22, 2024 @12:42PM (#39470448)
Eek @ that page. This is the "latinx" situation all over again.

"Damos as boas vindas" ("(we) bid you welcome"), while syntactically correct, sounds weird to portuguese speakers. The language has masculine and feminine words (often with -o and -a endings). For example, you say "bem vindo" to a male (be it an adult or a kid), "bem vinda" to a female (likewise). When you address a collective, the male version is generally used. "Bem vindo(a)"implies a wish on the part of the one who welcomes, implied in a hidden verb "(seja) bem vindo(a)" ("be"/"have a" welcome).

- "Bem vindos à loja do google" (lit. "welcome to the google store"). This sounds fine.

- "Damos as boas vindas à loja do google" (lit. "(we) bid/wish you (a) welcome to the google store") sounds alien and artificial.

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by bonzini on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:12PM (#39472461)
Interesting, in Italian it's a bit formal but perfectly acceptable ("vi diamo il benvenuto..."). It's something you might hear at the beginning of a theatre play, or perhaps in the audio guide of a museum.
Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by dormento on Friday February 23, 2024 @08:47AM (#39480496)
To be faaair, it is not wrong per se, it's just something you would never hear coming from an actual person who is addressing you.

A shoopkeeper _might_ say "bem vindo" ("welcome"), even though that would be hella corny (we usually open with "hello/good morning/evening/whatever"). They would never say "lhe dou as boas vindas" (singular form of "(lhe) dou(damos) as boas vindas").

Re:Google to pause Gemini image generation of people after i... by titanomachy on Thursday February 22, 2024 @01:39PM (#39471220)
In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king of the Pixel splash page.