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Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Vespasian on Thursday January 25, 2024 @02:50PM (#39134234)
The rules (payment per install) differ for apps installed from the app store to those not installed from there.

That gives preference to apples own app (the app store) which they can only do because they are still Gatekeeping.

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Kon-Peki on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:03PM (#39134429)
So you're arguing that they aren't following the DMA? That's not malicious compliance, that's non-compliance.
Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by mh8h on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:32PM (#39134833)
No they don't:

> Core Technology Fee — iOS apps distributed from the App Store and/or an alternative app marketplace will pay €0.50 for each first annual install per year over a 1 million threshold.

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by kristofferR on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:39PM (#39134946)
The new business terms including the Core Technology Fee are only required for developers who will want to be able to upload their apps to alternative app stores like f-droid:

https://developer.apple.com/support/dma-and-apps-in-the-eu/#...

Pretty clear malicious compliance. "Oh, you want to be able to distribute your popular free apps on other app stores? You gotta start paying us massively then."

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by cmelbye on Thursday January 25, 2024 @04:13PM (#39135377)
I wonder how they should comply with the law in your eyes. What is a fair way for Apple to recoup the investment they make into their developer programs?
Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by kristofferR on Thursday January 25, 2024 @04:21PM (#39135489)
Selling devices and App Store revenue. To charge free/open-source apps for your OS is absurd.
Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by Vespasian on Thursday January 25, 2024 @06:50PM (#39137099)
Apples has several revenue streams:

- They sell hardware and licensed software to consumers. Within the law they may ask for money for feature updates.

- They also charge developers for access to their tools and access to their store front and payment handling.

That's all legit and if they want to hike prices or put parts of that information behind paywalls, the market will sort it out.

But if a consumer and a third party developer want to do business without all that, then it's my (and the DMAs) stance that apple has no right to a share of that. They EU is increasingly of the opinion that, in general, a device has to serve its owner and not the original manufacturer.

When they want to protect consumers by scanning for known malware that's fine but "Apple loses revenue" is not a threat at all.

Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by HDThoreaun on Friday January 26, 2024 @07:12PM (#39150746)
Selling phones? How does msft recoup the resources theyve put into windows developer programs?
Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by fyrn_ on Thursday January 25, 2024 @04:28PM (#39135581)
Oh, that's sneaky. So if someone wants to also distribute their app on something else, they pay the fee on their existing installs?
Re:Apple announces changes to iOS, Safari, and the App Store... by madeofpalk on Thursday January 25, 2024 @03:56PM (#39135172)
Or take advantage of some of the new capabilities, such as NFC access or alternative browser engines.