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Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by Oras on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:17PM (#39033610)
Why this is surprising? I mean wouldn’t any military in the world want to benefit from new technologies, especially if it was developed in its own country?
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by itslennysfault on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:25PM (#39033712)
It's "surprising" because it was an explicit part of OpenAI's charter to not allow their tech to be used by the military, but to anyone with half a brain I don't think it is ACTUALLY a surprise.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by tdeck on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:58PM (#39034107)
Why would they even write that into the charter when they immediately jettisoned it at the first opportunity?
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by ParetoOptimal on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @05:26PM (#39034448)
To have their cake and eat it too: Many top minds have this pesky not wanting to be complicit in killing people thing... so say that you super promise not to work with the military can sometimes trick those people.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by ceejayoz on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:20PM (#39033635)
It's entirely unsurprising.

Decades from now we may wish we all raised up a bit more fuss about it, though.

Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by Swenrekcah on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @05:10PM (#39034252)
It’s just inevitable. Decades from the events now, I’m really glad the US got the bomb before Hitler.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by jacquesm on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @09:11PM (#39036632)
Hitler wasn't on track to 'get the bomb' before the end of the war.

So it wasn't an America or Germany situation, in fact nobody on the planet was close to 'getting the bomb' in 1942. Though not for lack of trying. The Manhattan project was a stupendous effort compared to anything else done to move science forward by brute force up to that that. And short of the space race nothing like it has been seen since until the current effort to bring AI into the world and in some ways it still pales in comparison.

Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by threatofrain on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:20PM (#39033636)
There's a vocal HN demographic with the strong moral position that working on improving war machinery is very evil.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by Tommstein on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @08:04PM (#39036093)
It's unlikely that any of them are Ukrainian.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by tmnvix on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:27PM (#39033743)
It depends on what you would consider an improvement.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by bugglebeetle on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:39PM (#39033891)
I don’t think it’s just a “vocal HN demographic” that thinks arms dealing is bad.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by spacebanana7 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @06:05PM (#39034884)
Relatively few people on HN have a total objection to arms dealing.

For example, not many people oppose the sale of F35s to Australia or Leopards to Norway.

Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by city_guy_1 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:50PM (#39034015)
"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by 23B1 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:44PM (#39033941)
That demographic lives in a very thick, very privileged bubble. On a long enough timeline, someone is going to try to kill you.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by 2OEH8eoCRo0 on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @05:04PM (#39034182)
Define war machinery. Contributing to Ghidra would fall under the Pentagon.

https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra

Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by aeim on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:24PM (#39033696)
ah, i see. a trOpenAIn horse.
Re:OpenAI is working with the US military now by GoodJokes on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @04:24PM (#39033690)
Yes but most of you are just trying to retire early and will work for anyone.