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Really? Been 3 years since ChatGPT and Google still going from misery to another in their AI products.

Even if these numbers are correct, they don’t have any useful product for coding or search. Not sure what you’re referring to

Rapidly? Their 2 years of stealth was replicated in 2 weeks.

I give it to them for creating the hype (good marketing), and for making a useful classifier. Not sure what they would scale rapidly though.

FDE is meant to be a role similar to tech co-founder within a small business unit.

Someone who can understand the requirements, talk to users, build, ship, and support.

Well done Google! 403 you don’t have access to this document

Please hire some QA instead of embarrassing yourself this bad

> They either find some niche within the existing product

They should stay in where they started, dev experience and IDEs custom for each language. Entering the AI coding was a mistake in my opinion, I’m sure one can argue that AI coding would have better tooling without their IDEs, but AI coders (Cc and codex) don’t use IDEs anymore so it’s a lost battle before the start

Weird choice by CloudFlare, would been great if they have shared why it was created.

I use CloudFlare developer platform and quite happy with tools, but I didn’t use the gateway API and always used OpenRouter which does support web search.

I can see it useful for those who didn’t do any integrations or like to keep logs at one place, but did customers actually ask for this?

> Since no individual buyer cares that much about geostrategic issues

You clearly haven’t worked in enterprise in the EU. Location of data processor is the first thing they check. That’s why every major cloud has regions with different offerings, not just for HA and redundancy

Surprised people are comparing to muse. Meta reputation is terrible within HN audience, so for people to use their AI agent as an example feels like “muse generated” argument. Unless the sentiment has change quite recent and I missed it

My use case is simple classification for job ads. Things like, industry, work settings (remote, hybrid, onsite) and job type (full time, part time .. etc).

I did side by side comparison with Gemini 2.5 Flash Lite, Jev, Jeff

I tried the 0.8B model, completely useless in classification. Qwen Jeff-Qwen3.5-2B was better, but still missed job type.

I suppose with larger model, this could be useful, but would require more ram and will be slower.

So agents made all these chained short URLs that runs code which is pretty clever, but at which point and how they had access to internal HF systems? Were these sandboxes running inside HF production platform?

I remember reading about strands SDK and it looked great in terms how everything is an event that you can extend, so this harness feels quite about right.

However, for this kind of customisation, Pi is actually quite great. One of the most things I love about Pi is ability to ask it to create an extension and it does it quite well as it’s part of their docs. Also ability to customise the system prompt to avoid the clutter that Claude Code add (around 20k system prompt that mostly had nothing to do with the code).

The demo was showing something I have created for my Pi setup, which is asking me in each new session which skills and MCP I would to enable for the session. This works quite well if you have multiple projects where you don’t need all skills but just a small subset

I tried searching jobs in London, showed me jobs from all over the UK. I also tried "Outside IR35" which is a type of contracting in the UK, got lots of irrelevant results.

For a while is the keyword. It’s just vibe coders have just discovered the classifiers

Leetcode doesn’t tell you anything apart from someone memorised set of questions and their solution.

For your question, I assume you want people who can solve problems, can explain their thought process and reasons of decisions. I did interview devs recently, and my questions were related to their experience in their CV. Something like, tell me about project X in Y company, what did you do, what did you use, why, what did you learn from it.

My personal opinion is that LLMs are no difference from developers who over engineer and over complicate things. You can get them to do good work with the right steering and right understanding of the whole system within the context of the company.

I made it clear that it is useful and I can see many people using it including myself. My point is it’s not a breakthrough.

I wouldn’t say lazy, LLMs are fast to use and much more cost effective especially if you factor the cost and time of training (data preparation, data cleaning, … etc).

It’s hard to justify several months to business when there is something off-shelf ready to use and doesn’t require domain specialists to run.

I played around with Jev last night and did it for classification tasks that I used Gemini 2.5 flash lite with.

It’s a bit faster and bit cheaper, but this is compared to LLM. The consistency was nice to see, BUT, as someone who trained NLP models prior to LLMs, it’s just BERT with more data. I can see why people would want ready made one shot classifier, and I can see the value of sending multiple classifier in one call, but I wouldn’t call it breakthrough. And I believe many labs will replicate it in no time and might have it as part of their harness.

I see it as a wake up call for the tech community to go back to basics for most tasks instead of relying solely on generic LLMs.

There is nothing stopping anyone doing things their way, LLMs or not.

I suppose you can balance between using them if the paycheck job is asking for them, and enjoy your craft outside your 9-5.

I’ve been reading more and more of this tone, and I do wonder what those devs writing these blogs do and where do they work. I’ve been a software engineer for more than 25 years, and the challenge was never the cording, it was always the human communication and understanding the outcome.

Yes LLMs can help none devs create things now, but show me a company that will allow AI generated code by none devs to go to prod.

But even reviews are fake now. 2 years ago I launched a service and added trust pilot to collect some reviews to help with SEO, then received many emails promising “verified” reviews for $x per review.

Same for Google reviews.

I’m a software engineer, and the way I find new tools is usually YouTube, GitHub, and HN. Even those channels are manipulated now with bots to inflate numbers to reach more

Reading all the comments, it seems quite bleak to advertise. How do indies and SMBs reach audience these days then?

Isn’t that done by EXIF like decades ago? Not on phones but DSLR. I would think it’s an easy software thing to add (and probably to remove)

LLMs are not consistent

That’s the definition of current LLMs. They have trained “borrowed” on whatever humans have documented digitally and physically (books).

> > I think the most of the money would go to purchase hardware,

> So it's not a skill issue?

I meant by offering sovereign cloud/inference, not for training. But even if it was for training, Chinese labs have limited supply of GPUs, look what they've done. So it is a skill issue.

Also to clarify, I didn't mean European engineers' skills, I meant "you get what you pay for" as a company, that's why I hope they start offering better compensation to retain talent.

Chinese models are open, available to distill, and they also publish papers about their research. Being one year behind is a skill issue.

I think the most of the money would go to purchase hardware, But I hope they can start making adequate compensation for AI engineers and researchers to move forward.

I tried “mens cycling helmet specialized” via normal search and AI search.

On the surface, AI showed results of £45 while normal results showed £39.99 and this particular result didn’t show at all in the AI search, even when clicking more.

However, small fine print was the £39.99 had a £4.99 delivery. Can it be that AI is optimised for full price including shipping?

I like the theories here, we shall see if it’s another DNS issue

Sums up Google AI products.

I have a weird vibe from all the comments in this thread, they feel like a script rather a real experience.

I'm a techie, but nothing beats a magnetic whiteboard on the fridge.

That would be interesting to see. The only time Google had a good coding model was 2.5 Pro, which lasted a few weeks then degraded so bad.

A gentle reminder that none of Google models are in top 10 in Terminal Bench, so if this article is true, that would be a leap.