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Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by jrockway on Sunday January 14, 2024 @04:21AM (#38988843)
New Panamax ships can carry 13,000 twenty-foot-equivalent units. 13,000 * 20 ft = 260,000 ft = 49 miles. (You can stack containers on top of each other, so 25 miles. There also needs to be space between the containers on a train for the couplers, etc., though, so a real train would probably be longer than this.)

I am not sure how much the railway helps. There is already a railway across North America and it's still cheaper to go via Panama at this scale.

Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by pseudostem on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:17AM (#38989141)
Not sure if GP meant the math for just the trains bit. There is an increase in handling, and everytime the container changes hands, it's going to cost (assuming dearly). First the ship has to berth (cost), unloaded using QC gantry (cost) onto an ITV (cost) where it gets stacked using a stacker/gantry (cost) in a yard (cost) and then unstacked using a stacker/gantry (cost) onto a truck/ITV (cost) which takes it to a stacker/gantry (cost) which then stacks it onto a train (cost). This is then probably going to be reversed on the other side of the train destination assuming it's a port.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by berkes on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:27AM (#38989189)
The handling is an opportunity too, though. Now you can merge cargo from several ships, and split the cargo from one ship to several others.

Rarely do all containers go in one large batch from just one port to another single one.

Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by jaystraw on Wednesday January 17, 2024 @09:36AM (#39028251)
i don't disagree, but were it that advantageous, there would be islands in the pacific where this happened
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by readthenotes1 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @04:55AM (#38989015)
Sounds like what they need is a conveyor belt
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by savoytruffle on Sunday January 14, 2024 @08:35AM (#38990219)
Some sort of a sideways space-elevator.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by m4rtink on Sunday January 14, 2024 @09:21AM (#38990635)
Space fountain working with containers! :)
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by nunesvn on Sunday January 14, 2024 @08:33AM (#38990214)
why not a slingshot?
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by geraldhh on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:07AM (#38989086)
terrific idea
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by akie on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:39AM (#38989244)
Pretty fragile though.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by geraldhh on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:53AM (#38989319)
idk, could be addressed with segmentation and redundancy thou
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by zo1 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @10:38AM (#38991355)
Not if you put it on some sort of rail system, and make sure each unit that's on the system has the capability to push/stop itself on this rail system.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by yreg on Sunday January 14, 2024 @04:25AM (#38988862)
24000 TEU ships don't fit into Panama canal.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by benj111 on Sunday January 14, 2024 @05:30AM (#38989206)
Well they didn't mention 24000 teu.

Or are you saying they wouldn't be limited by panamax, so could theoretically lower costs on the shipping portion?

Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by yreg on Sunday January 14, 2024 @06:44AM (#38989574)
They did calculate with 24000 TEUs, edited the comment afterwards. All good.
Re:Panama Canal drought forces Maersk to start using land br... by jrockway on Sunday January 14, 2024 @08:24PM (#38996324)
Yup, I did. I had that thought like, wait, can that big a ship fit through the Panama canal? The answer is... no ;)