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Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by baz00 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:02PM (#38746400)
I think your expectations are wrong. They sit there in silence with a few leaks here and there and some github projects, people speculate and get all excited about extrapolating those things. Then Apple deliver what works which may or may not be related to it.

What they don't do is sell you a lie a year before release then deliver shit (like every other fucking vendor).

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by behnamoh on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:22PM (#38748362)
> What they don't do is sell you a lie a year before release then deliver shit (like every other fucking vendor).

If you're referring to Google, then you're right. But OpenAI has consistently delivered what they announced pretty quickly. Same with Microsoft. To think that Apple somehow has a secret sauce that helps them surprise everyone is an illusion. They've had 3 years now to show their interest in LLMs, but they're just too conservative to "think different" anymore.

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by cpill on Saturday December 23, 2023 @05:00PM (#38748682)
I think LLMs are to inconsistent for Apple's taste, I mean that in both senses. Their perfectionism won't risk bad output, ever, which is impossible for LLMs
Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by baz00 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @03:40AM (#38752158)
Nowhere near that. They’re a totally unproven tool with a lot of bad side effects. They just don’t want to go to market with that.

I mean they do truly useful stuff already using ML just not LLMs

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by zdragnar on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:15PM (#38746513)
They're plenty capable of delivering garbage. Certain year models of the MacBook pro were inherently faulty. I've had the displeasure of having two of them bought for me at work.

All of Apple's windows software (iTunes, Safari, etc) has been, at best, a barely working port.

I'm assuming they are putting a lot more thought and care into it than the touchbar, crappy keyboards and the rest, but I'm also not holding out much hope either.

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by MBCook on Saturday December 23, 2023 @03:00PM (#38747589)
Apple can screw up, no question. But they don’t do the two-year hype cycle thing that just about everyone else does in technology (or video games).

It’s incredibly rare for Apple to publicly talk about things that won’t be selling extremely soon.

The iPhone had to be pronounced because it was going to show up on the FCC website, and obviously Apple wanted to control the message. I suspect the Vision Pro may be similar, but they also wanted developers to start getting ready so they would have software day one.

The only thing I can think of that Apple pre-announced and failed at was the Air Power mat. They said it would be coming out soon after and had to push that a couple times before finally canceling it.

Other than that small exception, if modern (post jobs return) Apple announces something is coming, it will come out and be quite close to what they say.

They don’t pull a Humane AI, Segway, Cyberpunk 2077, or No Man’s Sky.

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by pjerem on Saturday December 23, 2023 @02:43PM (#38747426)
Hello MacBook Pro 2016 !
Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by scarface_74 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @03:33PM (#38747924)
And that Apple /// that Apple released in 1980 was also garbage…
Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by baz00 on Saturday December 23, 2023 @01:24PM (#38746595)
Since they got rid of Jony, it's been great. That's all I'm saying.
Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by mpweiher on Saturday December 23, 2023 @02:32PM (#38747321)
Absolutely!

The hardware, that is.

With software, their Come to Jesus moment is still in the future.

(To me, Swift is sort of the Jony correlate on the software side. Doesn't fit perfectly, of course, but very similar "we are perfect who cares about evidence la la la I can't hear you" vibes and results)

Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by behnamoh on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:48PM (#38748572)
Yes, they have treated macOS like a toy. It's time they made it a real OS.
Re:Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model by Apple by baz00 on Sunday December 24, 2023 @03:42AM (#38752170)
I despise this perspective. It’s pretty much finished. What more crap do you want shovelled onto it?