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Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by BiteCode_dev on Friday December 22, 2023 @03:41PM (#38738438)
The thing is, we need to kill bacterias in many other places than the human body:

- medical equipment: handles for scalpels, syringes, operation tables... All those things we need to clean again and again.

- passage ways: doors, handles, stairs handrails, subway grab bars... All the things that propagate infections in very dense populated areas.

- research fabs: hazmat suits, protection googles, fum hood protections,... All the stuff you want to make sure don't end up cross contaminate your batch or escape.

So it's still very useful.

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by smileysteve on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:19PM (#38738795)
Out of the body, we have a number of solutions; fire, bleach, uv-c, lye; on your list, only the plastics (personal protection stuff) can't cleaned with these many times around
Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by notamy on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:24PM (#38738842)
Unfortunately, bacteria resistant to bleach are starting to develop https://www.microbiologyresearch.org/content/journal/micro/1...
Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by BiteCode_dev on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:26AM (#38742846)
You are not going to bleach a handrail 50 times a day, it's not economically viable.
Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by heavyset_go on Friday December 22, 2023 @03:46PM (#38738478)
> - medical equipment: handles for scalpels, syringes,

I hope these things are autoclaved and not just disinfected.

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by Cerium on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:00PM (#38738623)
They also need to be mechanically cleaned. Simply sterile is not sufficient due to the presence of pyrogens after sterilization.

https://ethidelabs.com/depyrogenation-and-sterilization-for-...

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by BiteCode_dev on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:01PM (#38738627)
Yes, but once they are out of their container, they start collecting bacterias.

No matter how clean operating rooms are (which can vary a lot), it's never perfectly sanitized.

A cheap way to get many surfaces agent free would be a nice additional safety measure.

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by EA-3167 on Friday December 22, 2023 @04:07PM (#38738674)
It depends on the instrument, you can't autoclave the scope used for cystology for example, they're generally treated with vaporized Hydrogen peroxide. It's very effective, but not as effective as an autoclave.
Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by hedora on Friday December 22, 2023 @07:17PM (#38740344)
> passage ways: doors, handles, stairs handrails, subway grab bars... All the things that propagate infections in very dense populated areas

Sterilizing those often increases disease spread. By default, they are covered with a microbial community that can outcompete things that are human pathogens.

If you sterilize it, then you’re either leaving a coating of food (mostly dead skin cells) for pathogens to eat, or a coating of nasty poisons that strip the protective barrier off people’s skins, which undermines their ability to fight off what pathogens they do end up touching.

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by CrHn3 on Friday December 22, 2023 @08:46PM (#38740884)
I believe you mean sanitize, not sterilize.

Probiotics can be applied to mitigate undesirable bacterial growth after sanitizing [1].

1. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7350316/

Re:Polymers capable of killing bacteria without inducing ant... by BiteCode_dev on Saturday December 23, 2023 @04:25AM (#38742838)
Not with such material which kills everything.