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Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway290 on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:15AM (#38683535)
> really hoped someone will help get rid of Putin from inside RU by this moment

For normal citizens it means to risk own death. The people who think this way would rather leave the country.

For oligarchs and elites, yes only putting complete economic lockdown could work. No way to travel and buy yourself or your kids comfy western way of life.

Unfortunately sanctions are lax. Eg. Putin's wife lives in EU just fine I think. The people hurt mainly are regular citizens, I have a buddy who cannot open a bank acc in EU because of some evil namesake on top. Whereas oligarchs are fine, if you have money the banks are open to you worldwide. And even if sanctions were stricter crypto laundering now undermines all of them. Quite depressing this all

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by oytis on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:20AM (#38683607)
> For oligarchs and elites, yes only putting complete economic lockdown could work. No way to travel and buy yourself or your kids comfy western way of life.

I don't think that can work. Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life. Sanctions are only needed to starve Russian economy to a point where it cannot finance war - and it has been a mixed success so far, but in principle can work.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway290 on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:34AM (#38684778)
> Russian elites absolutely value power over Western way of life

some elites maybe, but their kids will only be after a couple of generations. It's one thing if you yourself cannot spend time in London but if your kids and relatives also cannot leave and buy a new iphone suddenly you have people to answer to.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by deredede on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @02:55PM (#38700649)
There is something surreal about the idea that the war would end by taking away some rich kids' iPhones.
Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway290 on Wednesday December 20, 2023 @03:46AM (#38706619)
You know what I mean. iPhone is catch all standing for quality status-signaling cars, furniture, food, any electronics, etc etc. The dinosaurs who still remember USSR will be fine without those but for later generations it'll be a shock if Chinese knockoffs is all they can have now like the plebs.

Those later generations are currently reaching prime age and they are leading comfortable shock-free life that just reinforces their understanding of how there can be no consequences for association with Putler.

It's clear that they are immune while if you are a regular person not associated with government and elites you are hurt by war and sanctions. So what do regular people do? Try to be associated with government and elites as best they can. How? By supporting whatever the government does.

I think you underestimate how simply a desire to have nice life and signal high status can change political outcomes

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by medo-bear on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @02:21AM (#38692811)
> mixed success

How do you define mixed success? It has been a more spectacular failure than the Ukranian summer counter offensive

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by victorbjorklund on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:21AM (#38683634)
Russians had zero problem with storming an airport to try to kill jews. The reason they arent doing anything isnt because russians are scared. The reason is most russians dont want russia to loose the war and surrender to Ukraine and give up Crimea. Even Navalny said he would continue the occupation of crimea if he replaced Putin.
Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by delfinom on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:23AM (#38683657)
Those weren't "ethnic Russians", but rather their Dagestan colony which is quite Islamic and well, they obviously follow the same outrage news cycles hating on jews.

Russia is a giant patchwork of colonies being held together by strongmen and the "ethnic Russians" more or less drain and extract the resources of every minority and send the money all to themselves in Moscow and St Petersburg.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway_tt on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:02AM (#38684275)
You're completely right here, but I need to add: "ethnic Russians" are too a colony of Moscow, as the federal power puts all Russian regions in the position economic depression with how the mechanism of taxes and internal debt are implemented. Almost all regions are "dotational", which means that the federal government gives them money to cover their budget deficits, but this was not always the case.

This isn't about ethnicity, this is about strongmen in Moscow draining the country to fuel the ambitions and comfort of muscovites.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway290 on Monday December 18, 2023 @11:40AM (#38684870)
Don't forget the regions that supply natural resources for this gas station of a country. They feed Moscow with oil, diamonds, etc. Some of them I think used to require a visa for russians to enter until Putin.
Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by ponector on Monday December 18, 2023 @12:05PM (#38685151)
They are the same Russians as others, thousands of them are killing Ukrainians right now, for money mostly.

Promise to get paid 2000$ per month is enough motivation to go to the other country thousands of kilometers away from their home and kill everyone there and probably die.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by vshymanskyy on Monday December 18, 2023 @12:46PM (#38685726)
True
Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by protomolecule on Monday December 18, 2023 @02:36PM (#38687118)
"a giant patchwork of colonies"

Sounds like the United States of America. Or Canada. Or Australia.

"drain and extract the resources of every minority"

Native Americans and Australian Aborigines can't agree more.

Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @05:10AM (#38693855)
Is it that easy to crypto-launder money? That ex-Amazonian got pwned but maybe he made a rookie mistake, I don't know
Re:Wasm3 entering a minimal maintenance phase by throwaway290 on Tuesday December 19, 2023 @05:54AM (#38694103)
I kinda misspoke, it's not just laundering per se, more like crypto being a workaround for sanctions generally. If you have crypto in some countries there are ways to withdraw it into cash and buy your kids iphones for days without much kyc. Remember Binance's ties to Russia. Or you can buy guns for your war from North Korea and pay them crypto. But yeah, for laundering there are mixers and friendly banks. NK uses Macao I heard. Russia probably HK.