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Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by dontlaugh on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:02AM (#38672894)
That attitude only really works in languages spelled consistently. English has far more ridiculous spelling, like Leicester for example.
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by Culonavirus on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:11AM (#38672937)
Ah yes, reminds me of my favourite meat flavoring ingredient, the Wurstwrsrcer sauce.
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by fullstop on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:39AM (#38673143)
That reminds me of a joke about someone calling for an ambulance because a friend was injured and incapacitated. The 911 dispatcher asked for their location, and the caller saw that they were on Worcestershire Street. Being unable to pronounce the word, they dragged the body over to Pine Street and continued the call.
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by mcny on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:32AM (#38673086)
Worcestershire sauce

I don't care how these people want me to say their name. Worcester is like Manchester but with wor instead of man for me.

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by ubutler on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:27AM (#38673053)
Let us not forget colonel and (in UK English) lieutenant (relevant: https://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-19...).
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by chiefalchemist on Sunday December 17, 2023 @11:57AM (#38674200)
Am I the only one thinking of the famous The Three Stooges bit right now?
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by kcplate on Sunday December 17, 2023 @10:07AM (#38673316)
I just call it in my southern drawl “what’s this here, sauce”
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by themerone on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:32AM (#38673087)
American English is a bit more sane than British English. Noah Webster and other american dictionary publishers change a lot of spellings to be closer to their pronunciation.
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by Affric on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:41AM (#38673153)
I don’t think there is a meaningful difference.

American English still indulges etymological and traditional spellings for heaps of words. In cases like “fillet” and “valet” American English goes with “French” pronunciation.

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by KineticLensman on Sunday December 17, 2023 @09:50AM (#38673199)
> In cases like “fillet” and “valet” American English goes with “French” pronunciation.

I recall seeing an American somewhere in France getting frustrated when hotel staff couldn't understand what he meant by "maître-d", with his emphasis increasingly placed on the 'dee' as he got more and more annoyed.

(disclaimer: Brit here, not defending our pronunciation of Worcestershire)

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by bitwize on Sunday December 17, 2023 @10:08AM (#38673326)
Thank you for the hilarious image of an obnoxious American tourist shouting "I need to talk to the Mater DEE!" at a baffled Frenchman.

> (disclaimer: Brit here, not defending our pronunciation of Worcestershire)

The Americans typically pronounce it some form of "Wooshishurr".

I used to live in Massachusetts, and my wife would complain about the British-inspired place names and their local pronunciation. "I'm from Louisiana, I can't with your New England names! There's no 'lemon' in Leominster!"

I would gently remind her of how 'Natchitoches' is pronounced; it's certainly not as written.

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by KineticLensman on Sunday December 17, 2023 @03:49PM (#38676262)
The North Americans got their own back on me on one trip when I asked for a glass of 'water'. I increased my southern English accent until I was saying 'wart-er'. I then realised that I needed to say 'wadder' and then it worked; service with big smiles all round.
Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by chimeracoder on Sunday December 17, 2023 @10:13AM (#38673358)
> In cases like “fillet” and “valet” American English goes with “French” pronunciation.

British English is even less consistent, using the French pronunciation of "valet" for one of its two meanings and the Anglicized pronunciation for the other meaning.

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by Affric on Monday December 18, 2023 @10:41AM (#38683954)
Yes. I knowingly chose the example.

If you want a less controversial example use the word “one” and consider the voiced labial–velar approximant.

Re:Rob Pike on the Pronunciation of "Fsck" by jjgreen on Sunday December 17, 2023 @10:27AM (#38673467)
In England, most people say less-tur, in Leicester it's less-tarr ...