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Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:34AM (#38582707)
Creative names are all fun of fine but this

- is not easy to google

- is quite tasteless, less so if murder is mainly something you see on tv, but for some people murder is sadly much less of an fictional rare thing

it it would be a game, story etc. which has that name and covers that topic it would be fine but naming something pretty unrelated to that murder is just quite a bit of tasteless and unnecessary edge; if it had a flock of crows as a log it would at least be a funny joke

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DeIlliad on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:11AM (#38583060)
> - is not easy to google

Nobody is googling "Murder" looking for a game engine and being disappointed that they can't find it. If you search "Murder Engine" this is the first thing that pops up.

> - is quite tasteless, less so if murder is mainly something you see on tv, but for some people murder is sadly much less of an fictional rare thing

I have an immediate family member that was brutally murdered. I also have no problem with the name of the engine. Of the things to take issue with, this seems silly. You would hate LOVE2D which has libraries famously named ANAL and LUBE.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:31PM (#38583763)
To clarify I find it tasteless and edge, i.e. a bad choice. This doesn't mean I have a problem with it, nor does it mean I'm offended by it or think others would be offended by it or hate it or anything like that.

I also am not sure why you think I would find LOVE2D tasteless. The name has a clear connection to what it names, it paints a clear and positive picture and has a slightly less obvious joke in it onto which they then double down by how they name some of their libraries. That has style and taste.

But murder is lacking all of that, or at least it's too non obvious. This disconnect between the name and what it is/the picture it paints is why I called it tasteless and edgy. It feels like there was either a lack of ideas or it wants to edge on and provoke but the picture this paints isn't beneficial/good for a 2d game engine in any way as far as I can tell. Even comes with a (small) to cause harm and require a renaming later one.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by alex_lav on Saturday December 09, 2023 @03:16PM (#38585563)
> To clarify I find it tasteless and edge, i.e. a bad choice. This doesn't mean I have a problem with it, nor does it mean I'm offended by it or think others would be offended by it or hate it or anything like that.

If it doesn't bother you and you don't think it will bother others, how is it tasteless?

> The name has a clear connection to what it names

So Murder Engine is fine then.

The desire to clutch one's pearls in disgust over any little thing is showing up a lot in this thread, I think.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @04:21PM (#38586204)
> one's pearls in disgust over any little thing is showing up a lot in this thread,

not really, but I guess arguing with you about it is pointless as you are either ignoring or not understanding the points I am making and instead try to exaggerate things by implying that finding something tastless means much more then it does

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by alex_lav on Saturday December 09, 2023 @04:37PM (#38586333)
If you're unable to articulate why something is tasteless beyond "because I think it is", it sounds like you're sort of just making things up.

Which is fine. Clutch those pearls. But maybe examine your behavior as well?

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @05:39PM (#38586842)
except that I did explain, but you just pretend that part doesn't exist

and somehow after I did you started becomming all provocative and manipulative in how you phrased sentences so that it seems I sayed/mean/think things I do no

so idk. by I don't think I'm the person with the problem here

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DeIlliad on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:14PM (#38587172)
You're being weirdly aggressive about this. I think they explained themselves pretty well. I don't agree with them at all but they have said how they felt and why.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by alex_lav on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:28PM (#38587287)
I asked a clarifying question and then made an assertion about a behavior. I personally wouldn’t call that “aggressive”, but to each their own I suppose.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by antifa on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:21AM (#38599973)
> I have an immediate family member that was brutally murdered.

Ah yes, I remember electing you to represent people with brutally murdered family members at People With Brutally Murdered Famiky Members Anonymous.

Love2D is cute, Murder, ANAL, LUBE are tasteless. Maybe deadbeef is too. It's fine, it is what it is, bad names are sprinkled everywhere. Let it be known as tasteless. It's OK.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by account42 on Monday December 11, 2023 @09:18AM (#38600824)
Presumably the members at People With Brutally Murdered Famiky Members Anonymous don't have that much of a problem doesn't already have a problem with the non-consensual homicide depicted in most videogames?

Of all the things to get triggered by...

Personally I'm glad that there are still projects with names not chosen by the public outrage committee and then approved by the ad-friendlyness commission.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DeIlliad on Monday December 11, 2023 @01:24PM (#38603355)
Never did I claim to represent everyone who has had atrocities happen to them. I'm just giving a data point that not everyone who has had someone murdered recoils in disgust at the sight of the word. Taste is a matter of opinion. The person I replied to happens to think that ANAL and LUBE are perfectly fine as they thematically match the name Love2D. You think it's tasteless. All valid opinions.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by nkozyra on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:39AM (#38582760)
> is not easy to google

I guess one could have said the same about "unity" or "unreal" or even "Godot" at one point.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:45AM (#38582814)
godot is a pretty unique name, tho
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by robertlagrant on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:06AM (#38583018)
Apparently hard to search for.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by esrauch on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:33PM (#38583781)
Before the engine I'm sure all ten search results would have been about Waiting for Godot though.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by antifa on Monday December 11, 2023 @07:24AM (#38599988)
Glad we're done waiting.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by TrueGeek on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:42AM (#38582783)
“.net”
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by morkalork on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:51AM (#38582861)
Sounds like the title of a 90s horror b-movie "Murder.net"
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DonHopkins on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:29AM (#38583219)
Which is at least easier to google for than Microsoft COM.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by tomalaci on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:05AM (#38583006)
I think that the name is too generic and popular. You see "murder", the word, in most news outlets, vast majority of movies/games/etc. - any media.

Sure, you have "Unity", "Unreal", "Godot", ".NET" and etc. but I would argue that they are distinct and unique because they have some heavy-weight organizations and popularity behind them. I also think that they are not on the same level of generic use as "murder".

This engine's name, however, will have to compete with the generic "murder" that is already used in various different contexts. Surprisingly, you can still find it as top result if you search "murder engine" so they got that going for them.

Still, would of preferred if it was maybe some variation of "murder" word if they want to stick with that.

Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by ilkke on Sunday December 10, 2023 @02:26AM (#38589810)
Agree it's terrible SEO but eventually "Murder engine" might be decent enough. At least it's edgy or lol or punk or or whatever box it ticked. The beauty of having the freedom to do whatever and see what it does for you.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by usrnm on Saturday December 09, 2023 @10:57AM (#38582928)
I wonder what you think of other stupid names, like "parsley", "cucumber" or "apple"?
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DonHopkins on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:26AM (#38583194)
At least it's better than "GIMP". ;)
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by bdhcuidbebe on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:38PM (#38583824)
Nobody complained about git yet
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by DonHopkins on Saturday December 09, 2023 @01:41PM (#38584442)
And doesn't a "debugger" imply the existence of a "bugger"?
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by furyofantares on Saturday December 09, 2023 @04:53PM (#38586448)
That's the programmer
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by Mystery-Machine on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:12PM (#38583579)
This is why we can't have nice things.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by karmakaze on Saturday December 09, 2023 @11:04AM (#38582995)
When I read the title, I was thinking it was like saying "Hell is..." and wondering what would be so bad about making an ECS game engine in C#.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by honeybadger1 on Saturday December 09, 2023 @12:04PM (#38583504)
come on
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by blondin on Saturday December 09, 2023 @02:43PM (#38585187)
fully agree. this is a very tasteless name. i wouldn't even go as far as the easy to google argument with this.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by osigurdson on Saturday December 09, 2023 @04:35PM (#38586319)
Murder murder murder murder. Sorry, you aren't the boss of us.
Re:Murder is a pixel art ECS game engine in C# by dathinab on Saturday December 09, 2023 @06:01PM (#38587047)
yep, I'm also never said anything beyond me not liking it in a specific way. Through given how the internet tends to be I could have been more clear that I'm not offended, neither think it will offend other, neither hate the name etc. etc. people just love to jump to conclusions.

It's just that it looks like a very promising project and bad names can easily come back and hunt a project iff it has become much larger and more successful. So it having in my opinion a bad name felt like something which isn't irrelevant.