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Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by TekMol on Friday November 24, 2023 @08:57AM (#38403986)
This reliably kills Firefox on Linux here.

The whole browser.

After a few seconds, during which the laptop fans are spinnung up, all tabs go into a "This tab just crashed" state.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by smca on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:44AM (#38405051)
Sorry for the trouble, we've just pushed bfcm.stripe.dev/lofi live. Should run reliably with very little load on any machine.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by not_your_vase on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:32PM (#38406213)
Have the same issue here, with Ryzen 4700U + 16 GB RAM. Are you saying that it is not enough for generic browsing at the end of 2023?
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by iaseiadit on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:48PM (#38406864)
Runs quite smoothly on my cell phone.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by smca on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:36PM (#38406242)
Which OS are you running and which browser? We've optimized for many common browsers/OS combos but have clearly missed yours (nothing to do with your specs).
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by bostik on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:24PM (#38406678)
As a counterpoint, Ryzen 7530U + 16GB here and with Linux+Firefox the page generates a fairly constant 25% CPU load.

So while clearly heavy for what is essentially a few streaming counters, it's not a system killer.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by not_your_vase on Saturday November 25, 2023 @01:36AM (#38411719)
Latest stable Debian 12 with latest stable Firefox 120. Wouldn't really call it an exotic setup...
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by nullhole on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:14PM (#38406615)
To be fair, this doesn't qualify as generic browsing. It's more like a CGI sequence from a remake of WarGames.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by TekMol on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:25PM (#38406152)
No change here. It still kills the browser and all tabs in it.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by surajrmal on Friday November 24, 2023 @12:40PM (#38406284)
That sounds like a Firefox bug
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by chrisandchris on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:37PM (#38406797)
Sounds like the browser vendor should fix all the crappy javascript deployed to the web :)
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by hibikir on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:55AM (#38404579)
The old version of this was even worse for performance.

Stripe has had an internal dashboard like this, open to anyone on the VPN, for at least 15 years: Started on a hackathon IIRC. One, serious view had a month-long by-the-minute chart, letting people see the growth. A typical first-of-the-month tradition was to try to predict where the total volume was going to end up, and celebrating when the daily processing record was beaten.

But the real problem wasn't that one, but a far more expensive variation that instead of giving you a number, represented the processing volume with little characters that would dance around the screen: The higher the volume, the more characters would come in. The problem was that this was created when Stripe's total volume was quite small, and Stripe was growing exceptionally well. So if you opened the dashboard on black friday (Or even worse, ten years ago, when black friday was on December 1st, and therefore also got many customer's subscription volume), then the number of flying Totoros would just overwhelm anything and everything any laptop would throw at it.

While the totoro-based performance was not up to Stripe standards (we should have gone in and added an extra zero or two to the threshold for every character), letting the entire company see that side of the financials live was a great move. So many startups out there just aren't candid with their employees regarding the economic state of affairs, while early Stripe let everyone see the processing volume, and thus whether growth was accelerating or slowing down.

It's also what is surprising of seeing this visible outside: At the same time that finances were very open internally, Stripe was very secretive of the data for the outside. Every time a major business news outlet made an estimate of the real processing volume, they were hilariously off, and that's because there were very few leaks, even after launching a new round where investors definitely were handed the real numbers. Based on this data alone, I'd expect people with some practice would be able to get a reasonably close estimate of what Stripe processed this year.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by granzymes on Friday November 24, 2023 @10:02AM (#38404654)
>Based on this data alone, I'd expect people with some practice would be able to get a reasonably close estimate of what Stripe processed this year.

Stripe recently started publishing their yearly processing volume in user letters (see, e.g. 2022: https://stripe.com/annual-updates/2022). I assume they will publish the 2023 numbers as well.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by sebstefan on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:01AM (#38404024)
It brought my windows laptop to its knees as well, I closed the tab before I got to see any stats. :')
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by Xymist on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:13AM (#38405389)
Checking with `nvidia-smi`, that tab's presence uses eight gigs of GPU memory, at least on a 4K screen.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by imp0cat on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:50AM (#38404514)
Firefox/Linux/Ryzen 5 here and it runs fine. Does not even spin the fans.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by keanebean86 on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:12AM (#38404116)
Seems to be very GPU heavy. The GPU in my 7320u is maxed out and the site feels really slow.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by edvards on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:07AM (#38404064)
Same with Google Chrome stable on Linux (Ubuntu 22.04)

EDIT: Works well on Google Chrome stable on Windows 11 tho

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by ratsmack on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:49AM (#38404503)
Running Firefox 115.4.0esr here and there is no problem, you may be running a different version (debian testing). My four core cpu is at 23%, even with thinkorswim running.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rjbwork on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:04AM (#38405285)
Interesting. Firefox on Android handles it just fine for me.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rossdavidh on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:35AM (#38404358)
I just looked at it in Firefox/Linux, no problem.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by firesteelrain on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:08AM (#38404085)
Must be your PC. Works fine on my iPhone with FireFox
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by acatton on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:14AM (#38404136)
Firefox on iPhone uses Webkit. It's basically a Safari skin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Firefox&oldid=118...

> It is the first Firefox-branded browser not to use the Gecko layout engine as is used in Firefox for desktop and mobile. Apple's policies require all iOS apps that browse the web to use the built-in WebKit rendering framework and WebKit JavaScript, so using Gecko is not possible.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rezonant on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:52PM (#38407527)
Hopefully Apple's policy ends soon.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by firesteelrain on Friday November 24, 2023 @06:07PM (#38409360)
Good to know. I am not sure why that was relevant to the page load issues of the Stripe dashboard since I didn’t compare it to Safari
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rpacut on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:16AM (#38404153)
Last time I checked Firefox for iPhones was just a UI over Safari engine. Did things change?
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rezonant on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:53PM (#38407539)
No, it is still using Safari WebView, but Apple may be forced to change that policy in the near future if we're lucky.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by zht on Friday November 24, 2023 @11:04AM (#38405291)
how are people so confidently wrong about stuff like this?
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by olex on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:08AM (#38404076)
No issue with FF 119.0.1 on macOS/arm.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by blux on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:03AM (#38404035)
I'm not sure why you are downvoted; I have the exact same on an up-to-date Firefox.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by lkramer on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:13AM (#38404119)
Kills my firefox on Linux too. Fairly beefy laptop which should have no issues.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by codethief on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:25AM (#38404258)
Works fine for me in Firefox on Android.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by deafpolygon on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:04AM (#38404045)
MS Edge on a beefy PC - killing my browser here.
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by etaweb on Friday November 24, 2023 @09:19AM (#38404199)
Same here on Firefox and Brave
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by freyfogle on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:02PM (#38406507)
on mac as well. Completely froze everything. Lame
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by Darmody on Friday November 24, 2023 @01:20PM (#38406655)
I wasn't going to comment because I thought it was only me but yes. I heard the fans and then it crashed.

Thankfully I wasn't doing anything important...

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by danudey on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:15PM (#38407159)
Kills Firefox? My entire laptop, including my cursor and typing into a terminal, dropped to something like 10 fps.

The lofi version posted in reply to this is definitely better, but it's still crazy they managed to use up an entire laptop for their status page. Cool, but crazy.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by rezonant on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:47PM (#38407473)
Doesn't kill Firefox for me, but my machine is beastly. Windows 11, i9 12900K + RTX 3080Ti, seeing 35% overall CPU, Firefox using 1.2% of that, Task Manager indicating 15-20% of the GPU.

Maybe they fixed it, though.

Actually Firefox works a bit better, as the hitbox for the Next/Previous buttons is weirdly offset in Chrome but is spot on in Firefox, kudos.

EDIT: On `/lofi` Firefox is using about 0.1% CPU.

Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by MarkSweep on Friday November 24, 2023 @02:53PM (#38407538)
For what it's worth, this page was freezing my Windows computer in both Firefox and Chrome. Once I updated my AMD graphics drivers, it now works smoothly. I have an AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT. Graphics driver version 23.11.1 .
Re:Live dashboard of Stripe systems during Black Friday by tamimio on Friday November 24, 2023 @03:18PM (#38407784)
That means nothing.. what type of linux? what kind of customizations you did in your distro? WM? Based on which one? Drivers installed? And I’m not even going with your Firefox setup and what kind of addons you have.. such statement is expected from tech illiterates that see linux as a monolith thing or like MacOS where your OS will be identical to another for the most part, technically Linux is just a kernel per se. I use “linux” (mint cinnamon) with Firefox and ubo addon and that page loaded perfectly on thinkpad T470.