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Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by LordShredda on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:21PM (#38137134)
Although we have seen very frequently that pesticides still affect some humans or animals. At this point, shouldn't we just reduce the possible points of failures instead of hoping the next miracle molecule doesn't kill us all twenty years later?
Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by echelon on Friday November 03, 2023 @09:28PM (#38137180)
Very frequently?

These chemicals are benign and the media and activists have been scaring people for decades without justification.

I'm shocked Bayer lost and that the plaintiff was awarded anything. Glyphosate has not been shown to cause cancer. If it had, such literature would be paraded out as an evergreen example.

If you want to be afraid of chemical use, it's the overuse of antibiotics that should worry you.

Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by unihd2kno on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:04PM (#38137386)
> it's the overuse of antibiotics that should worry you

If violence doesn't work, you are not using enough violence.

Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by hinkley on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:21PM (#38137503)
Roundup isn’t glyphosate. It’s full of glyphosate, yes. But it’s not glyphosate.

It also doesn’t always break down. Depends on if it binds with anything.

Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by tanseydavid on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:33PM (#38137585)
Seems like a distinction without a difference:

"Glyphosate is a broad-spectrum systemic herbicide and crop desiccant. It is used to kill weeds, especially annual broadleaf weeds and grasses that compete with crops. Its herbicidal effectiveness was discovered by Monsanto chemist John E. Franz in 1970. Monsanto brought it to market for agricultural use in 1974 under the trade name Roundup."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glyphosate

Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by hinkley on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:46PM (#38137661)
It’s a distinction without a difference if you’re trying to reuse the tobacco playbook and you need people to be confused long enough for your bonus checks to clear.
Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by BenjiWiebe on Friday November 03, 2023 @10:48PM (#38137679)
I think what they are meaning is that the chemical blend with glyphosate causes cancer even if pure glyphosate doesn't. I.e. an inactive ingredient or an interaction with an inactive ingredient is what causes the cancer.
Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by edgyquant on Saturday November 04, 2023 @09:44AM (#38140930)
> These chemicals are benign

Sure they are.

Re:Bayer hit with $332M judgement in Roundup cancer trial by dragonwriter on Friday November 03, 2023 @11:17PM (#38137835)
> Although we have seen very frequently that pesticides still affect some humans or animals.

“Pesticides” is a class that includes things intended affect animals (insecticides and rodenticides, for instance.)

> At this point, shouldn't we just reduce the possible points of failures instead of hoping the next miracle molecule doesn't kill us all twenty years later?

Probably not. We should probably improve our structures for evaluating, approving, and reevaluating once deployed agricultural chemicals of all types, but should we stop developing new technology in the field? No, we probably should not.