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Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by skydhash on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:49PM (#38079621)
A 24" 4k monitor is better than any laptop screen (Real estate and bigger UI elements). And I like to work in a single place, taking breaks instead of moving the workplace. I like the iMac, but I went with the mini + monitor for more flexibility.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by fwmcbumcrumble on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:41PM (#38080001)
My biggest issue with the 4k iMac is that it's highest scaling option (smallest elements) is less than what you get on a regular 4k display.

The iMac I belive is capped at "looks like 2560x1600" while my 4k display "looks like 3008x1692".

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by skydhash on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:47PM (#38080045)
I believe you can "option+click" to reveal all the resolution, which would expose the higher native one.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by tristanb on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:35AM (#38086459)
Thanks, I didn't know I could do that. I've been using a 3rd party utility...
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by filoleg on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @06:10PM (#38092128)
There is now also a button for “advanced resolution settings” in display settings menu, and behind it there is a toggle to permanently display all possible resolutions among the existing ones already there.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by astrange on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:58PM (#38079709)
The iMac screen is actually not as good as the MacBook Pro screen; it's only 60hz and I think it's less HDR.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by TerrifiedMouse on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:12PM (#38079802)
But the iMac screen is bigger and higher resolution - not sure about the latter but too lazy to check.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by astrange on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:25PM (#38079908)
Those aren't the most important specs even if they sound like they are.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by TerrifiedMouse on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:31PM (#38079951)
It’s important to those of us with aging eyes.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by astrange on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:17AM (#38081224)
Higher resolution would make that worse. You want the opposite if anything.

Or just go for AR glasses and make the view as big as you want.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by TerrifiedMouse on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:37AM (#38081351)
Why would high resolution make it worse? Just increase the screen DPI.

Anyway, the iMacs I have seen at the Apple Store has decently sized text.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by filoleg on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @06:09PM (#38092111)
> Why would high resolution make it worse?

Because the person you are replying to hasn’t learned about the existence of the resolution scaling setting yet.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by astrange on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @03:37PM (#38103722)
Taking a higher resolution screen and setting it to low resolution because you can't see it does not have many advantages over a lower resolution screen.

Now, a control to change text size, that's actually different.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by filoleg on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @05:20PM (#38105460)
> Taking a higher resolution screen and setting it to low resolution because you can't see it does not have many advantages over a lower resolution screen.

It does. Rendering at high DPI, especially for text, is amazing.

Otherwise, it would be like claiming that there was no advantage to macbooks switching to retina displays back in the first half of 2010s. The display size didn’t increase, and the rendering scale was increased to make things on screen appear the same size. You have no idea how thankful my eyes were for that DPI increase.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by Reason077 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:26AM (#38086300)
I (in my 40s) finally gave in and got some reading glasses. Good decision. Now everything on my screen looks crystal clear and sharp and I can make the fonts as small as I like without eye strain. They do make distance vision blurry, though, which is annoying.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by brundolf on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:56PM (#38080099)
That's entirely relative to the person and task, bud
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by brundolf on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:53PM (#38079655)
I guess the price starts to make sense if you think of it as MacBook + bigger monitor (- portability option) instead of just MacBook - portability
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by undersuit on Monday October 30, 2023 @10:57PM (#38079693)
4.5k monitor, 4480x2250. The extra area around a 4K viewport and the M3 could make these into decent editing machines.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by keyle on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:09PM (#38079785)
It's funny because technically even M1 is good enough for most editing jobs,...

But according to Apple, you need a sound proof dedicated room with 2 couches, and 4 external 4K monitors with a M3 Max and 128GB of memory! :D

Honestly it's getting ridiculous. I'm a dev and I can work on a macbook air no problem. My time wasted reading bad documentation or groking bad code is far more loss than the compile time difference! :)

I'm wondering, who will be their target market with the M3 Ultra? A professional who trains LLMs while producing Hollywood movies, that likes to work from the local Starbucks?

Maybe with M3 max they could finally claim "this thing can start Microsoft Teams in 3 seconds!"

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by jwells89 on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:13PM (#38079816)
For dev work I’d think where more muscle starts to make a big difference is with gargantuan codebases, think Chrome or Firefox or something where a full compile takes an hour.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by keyle on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:30PM (#38079941)
Typically people have build servers for large compile jobs, and I hope for their sake that they have some incremental compile (ninja!) facilities!

I remember though, compiling UE4 in 2016, from scratch, was a half-day job on my non-potato PC.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by pjmlp on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @03:12PM (#38089927)
In 2000, building our C codebase across Aix, HP-UX, Solaris, Windows 2000/NT for a new release took about a full day.

Straight C code, so no templates or whatever else traditionaly slows down C++ codebases.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by skydhash on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:21PM (#38079871)
Yeah, but I'd prefer to have a dedicated build server if I ever need to do this (or renting something from the cloud).
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by thirdsun on Wednesday November 01, 2023 @10:13AM (#38098444)
> Honestly it's getting ridiculous. I'm a dev and I can work on a macbook air no problem.

That's not surprising. It may certainly depend on the kind of development work you do but in my experience web development has always been quite easy and lightweight on the hardware compared to audio or video production. Those tasks will absolutely make use of better hardware. Back when I was recording music big projects could easily struggle even on capable hardware.

Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by adolph on Monday October 30, 2023 @11:11PM (#38079798)
Probably better thermals than a laptop.
Re:Apple supercharges 24‑inch iMac with new M3 chip by Reason077 on Tuesday October 31, 2023 @11:21AM (#38086203)
> "A 24" 4k monitor is better than any laptop screen"

Of course it is. But just get a Thunderbolt or USB 4 external monitor, where a single cable charges your laptop and instantly connects however many wired accessories you want. Then you have portability when you need it and a big screen when you need it. Best of both worlds!