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Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by zamadatix on Friday October 13, 2023 @11:44AM (#37871874)
ARIN NRPM 4.10 has special provisions for getting new IPv6 only ASNs under an org with no IPv6 addresses an IPv4 block to facilitate your IPv6 only network via NAT64 as well as hosting core services like DNS dual stacked (which you probably would do if getting your own ASN :)).

In regards to peering the Vultr VPS option allows dirt cheap VPSs to peer so I'd recommend checking them out first.

Question to the crowd: what's a cheap good way to get a peer for full tables? Vultr is restrictive on that, sensibly so, but it was nice/fun having my own looking glass. I used to have it with a $150/m quarter rack Colo but after my home internet went 5 gig symmetrical it seemed like a massive waste to maintain a remote Colo so I dropped that.

Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by quantum5 on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:06PM (#37872121)
(original author here)

Note that ARIN NRPM 4.10 now requires the requested range to be used exclusively for IPv6 transition and not anything else.

As for full table, several providers I recommended in the original post are able to do a full table for less than $10/month. You can also join an IX and ask nicely for transit from other members. Some may even offer you free transit the moment you join.

Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by zamadatix on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:43PM (#37872570)
4.10 still allows dual stacking core services like DNS but it is intended for NAT64 type deployment for other things (which I'm a fan of anyways! I'd encourage anyone to look into it while waiting for a different assignment, it's really quite good)... that said they are never going to be able to tell if your usage is from NAT64 or raw clients, not that I would condone lying in your application.

Thanks, I'll poke around a few and see which looks best! A bit more than Vultr but well worth it for a full table.

Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by dal on Friday October 13, 2023 @05:30PM (#37875854)
If you happen to have a pop in Sweden then there is an IX with free ports up to 100GE. https://sonix.network
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by kloch on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:24PM (#37876706)
Just Dual-stack dns by itself is sufficient justification as long as you already have IPv6. They dont care what else you do with it as long as its still also used for the "transition purpose" I'm not speaking for ARIN but I've been requesting and managing resourses from them for over 20 years, including a 4.10 allocation for side projects earlier this year.

Anything dual stack (dns, http, smtp etc.) is considered transitional. The only reason they say "exclusively" is so you technically have to give it back once its no longer used for that purpose. This is distinct from IPv4 blocks from the open market or the waiting list that you can sit on or sell if you no longer need them.

For most non-4.10 allocations only your original request needs to have been in good faith, after that utilization only factors into new resource requests.

For 4.10 the community wanted more restrictions to maximize availability for new networks.

Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by candiddevmike on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:43PM (#37872571)
Out of curiosity, what do you want full tables for?
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by zamadatix on Friday October 13, 2023 @12:49PM (#37872661)
To be honest 90% "it's fun to mess with". I had written my own looking glass type software with some historical statistics. I'm sure you could get similar data elsewhere but it was more about hooking into the route daemon updates and seeing general things or even watching what I was doing on other networks propagate live.

10% is having my own looking glass was significantly faster and easier for me to use. But I probably wouldn't have done it all just for that, it was just fun to mess with.

Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by Hikikomori on Friday October 13, 2023 @01:02PM (#37872827)
It's useful if you multi home.
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by Borg3 on Sunday October 15, 2023 @07:49AM (#37888975)
Its not necessary for multihoming. I am el-cheapo multihomed using Linux router. I use policy routing with 2 default routes (primary and secondary) and everything works like a charm. I could even try to do some ECMP but I care more about stability of ping/jitter that raw bandwidth. And you dont need to bother to ask ISP for BGP or static IPs. You just take whatever you have and slap it together.
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by Hikikomori on Monday October 16, 2023 @09:22AM (#37899529)
Yes, which is why I said useful. With a full table from two ISPs you know which ISP have a shorter path to a CIDR. It's also likely the same path where traffic also comes in from that CIDR.
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by sirstan on Friday October 13, 2023 @05:31PM (#37875856)
There are a number of exceedingly niche one-man-show hosts on sites like lowendtalk that will peer and provide full tables for a couple dollars a month.
Re:What I wish I knew when I got my ASN by pyvpx on Friday October 13, 2023 @07:18PM (#37876662)
try bgp.services