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Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by dumbfounder on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @03:57PM (#37836687)
I am in favor of louder pipes for motorcycles for safety reasons. But there is such a thing as too loud.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by rando_dfad on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:14PM (#37836874)
not sure the safety argument has factual support; the sound would need to project forward from the motorcycle, wouldn't it?
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by fsckboy on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:42PM (#37837209)
hmmm, if I have to hear the noise, I would like a requirement that it blare forward! (so I can step into the crosswalk)
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by mikestew on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:39PM (#37837177)
If noise made your bike safer, you’d get an insurance discount. People say such things so that they don’t come off as sociopathic, not because it is true. Don’t parrot them.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by genter on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:05PM (#37836778)
So should every pedestrian have a blazing siren on their head?
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by charcircuit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @05:57PM (#37838169)
Pedestrians should not be on the road.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by freeone3000 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @07:30PM (#37839117)
No, cars should not be on the road.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by charcircuit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:03PM (#37839361)
Roads were built for cars.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by rrix2 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:18PM (#37840505)
That's not actually the case in many places in the US, they were forcibly taken for cars in the same way electric streetcar systems were taken from us:

> Before the American city could be physically reconstructed to accommodate automobiles, its streets had to be socially reconstructed as places where cars belong [..] Until then, streets were regarded as public spaces, where practices that endangered or obstructed others (including pedestrians) were disreputable. Motorists’ claim to street space was therefore fragile, subject to restrictions that threatened to negate the advantages of car ownership.

https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262516129/fighting-traffic/

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by charcircuit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @11:41PM (#37840619)
Coming up with a fact that roads existed in the ancient times is not a gotcha. Most of the roads today did not exist back then. 99% of the roads I have driven on did not exist before cars.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by genter on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @07:44PM (#37839218)
Crosswalks
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by charcircuit on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:04PM (#37839365)
Crossing the road is different from what is being discussed which is riding along side cars.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by rrix2 on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @04:01PM (#37836742)
safer for whom? My windows only rattle after the motorcycle has driven past, they don't project the noise ahead of you nearly as much as you think they do.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by dumbfounder on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:53PM (#37863676)
If you are riding on the highway going the same speed as other cars, it is often hard for them to see you, but if they can hear you they know you are there. It isn’t about driving past.
Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by BobaFloutist on Tuesday October 10, 2023 @08:28PM (#37839547)
Which is the same reason every biker with loud pipes wears a full high-vis outfit.

Or maybe they're just assholes.

Re:US Sues eBay for Allowing Sale of More Than 300k Emission... by dumbfounder on Thursday October 12, 2023 @05:57PM (#37863705)
Most of them are assholes, but that doesn’t mean it’s not safer to be louder.