Doesn't matter what their country is doing, they get locked up and sentenced.
Sending them back whence they came is the only justifiable right action after they've served their time.
This needs to be worked on much earlier by improving social programs and integration. It's a multi-decade job. Barring government led death squads (which I'm not proposing here, mind you), deterrence does not work.
Interviews with some of these young criminals (borderline child soldiers at this point) show that they do not expect to live past 20-25, so they really don't care.
Unless the entire gang gets wiped, which they can do, but they dont.
> Interviews with some of these young criminals (borderline child soldiers at this point) show that they do not expect to live past 20-25, so they really don't care.
Thats an issue, because they will never say that if they stayed in their countries (pre-war).
So death squads. How's that working out in Latin America?
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/8/7/could-el-salvado...
(And here is archived version: https://archive.ph/ai2fQ )
Hasn't worked for gypsies for centuries, it's not going to work for arabs now.
They should be thrown into the ocean, if you want my suggestion.
Didn't say that, quite the opposite, but yeah, I'll confess I can't outline how. Hard to say how to fix 30 years of systemic failure.
"Throw them in the ocean" is a bit underspecified too, to be fair, and the legality is questionable.
Sweden went from almost entirely ethnic Swedish, with high levels of social cohesion and trust (easier to achieve in a monoethnic country), to one quarter of the population now being of a non-Swedish ethnicity, in a span of 50 years. It is now one of the most crime-ridden countries in Europe[0], with some having described it as the "grenade attack capital" of Europe.
I don't know why some keep on insisting that importing large numbers of people from vastly different cultural, political, and economic backgrounds, with neither a real plan on the government's part to integrate them nor a factual evidence of the immigrants being able to integrate well, is a good idea. Even worse are the blind accusations of racism when someone questions such policies.
I'm an immigrant myself (though not to Sweden), and I don't have anything against immigration; only the idea that people have an unrestricted right to be anywhere they please and behave in any way they please. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." An idea so old it's literally from the Roman Empire.
Nobody wins in the scenario of Sweden: not the native Swedes, not the immigrants who want to integrate into Swedish society, who now face additional burdens of discrimination.
[0]: https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp?title=2...
The data source for the "statistics" on that page appears to be an online sentiment survey.
[0]: https://www.eupedia.com/europe/crime_maps_of_europe.shtml
If you look at how humans have identified in terms of communities, we’ve gone from a tribal identity all the way to a national identity. It only makes sense as we go on to become a global identity.
What happens now seems to be the same thing on a larger scale.
No it's not. It's not unbelievable. It was entirely foreseeable, indeed, predicted. After decades of importing backwards, incompatible cultures, the West is reaping what they sewed.
There's an entire political block (conservatives) that are now able to say: "We told you so."
Why be content with one thought-terminating cliché when you can just pile all of them on, right?
The culture you are calling "backward", created math, the modern camera, algebra and so many things crucial to the modern world.
I dont see you calling Germans backwards even though they were in a similar shape less than a 100 years ago.
This isn't an issue with the culture because these issues won't be left so ignored in their countries.
Ask other immigrants or ones still living in the warzone, they will be absolutely surprised how these criminals aren't locked up and absolutely destroyed.
Cultures ascend and descend over time. Germany was an underdeveloped backwater in the Roman days, but a world leader now. Britain ruled the world for centuries, but is not anymore nearly as influential. China was undoubtedly the most advanced civilization in the world a few millennia ago, but nobody would have called it that in the 20th century. There are still tribes in the world who remain unconnected to modern society and die young of treatable illnesses.
Unless you believe in moral relativism, it's absolutely possible for some cultures to be backwards compared to others, at different points in time.
Female genital mutilation is prevalent only in the Islamic world[0]. Do you not consider that backward? Is it racist to condemn this practice?
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_m...
In fact, at least part of the current culture enjoys destroying (or looting) historical sites from those generative cultures.
Because the perpetrators are often children/teenagers, in many places actually not. It's the underage factor making many of these cases challenging to prosecute.
I noticed that also in every city in the Central and West Europe; in comparison with America (specially central and North America) the cops here has a complete different patrolling doctrine that is not prepared for that kind of ostensive preventive/remediation repression.
During some events of the summer 2020/21 I was surprised that in some situation of confronts or ostensive patrolling they lack some basic things like tactical formation (and it’s variations), non lethal options only pepper spray for small units (no teasers, no batons, or precision options), lack of non-characterised units, and an unnecessary gear (guys carrying several keys in a big keychain) and loose gear (pants that are not fit for running, heavy boots with inappropriate shoelace).
And on top of that a concerning lack of situational awareness.
Of course we do not have the issues from America policing (truculence, lack of de-escalating skills, less intelligence backed and more confrontational) but I think it’s time to change if they want have any success against those gangs.
No matter immigrants or not, they need to get locked up, and they would've gotten locked up in their respective countries.
The west has a problem with policing, its either too soft, or harsh in the wrong places and never achives the target.
Immigrants themselves are the biggest losers from this.
People who have nothing to do this, must now re-adjust to a society turning against them, and they have to actively fight more and more stereotypes to have a hope of doing anything.